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    RavesRus is offline New Member
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    Cool First cycle..........sust or dec

    hey whats up..........i was either gonna run 500mg sust or 400mg dec a week
    im 5"10 182 looking 4 size and strength. Can't really make up my mind
    Was also maybe thinkin because can get deca sonner too maybe go
    ec 400mg week 1-3
    ec 400mg + sust250mg week 4&5
    finish up on 500 mg sust week 6-8
    I've heard of buddies gettin good gains off a ml a week of sust(250mg obviously) but do not want to waste gear( i would actually rather start at this and go to the dec and sust for next cycle, but like i said DONT want to waste time, gear, and sides 4 nothin)
    Been workin out off on last 7 years but hard last 1.5 years

    Would u notice alot more of a cutting effect from dec?
    im sure both togther is better, but want to kinda tread lightly first time
    (i take between 200 and 300 grams protein a day which i understand is essential with deca...more the better......is it same with sust......jst curious
    and 10 g of glutamine before bed)

    p.s ive read descriptions many times which are the same thing pasted over and over on dif sites and would like some real educated input

    thnx 4 readin and ur time..............................cya
    Last edited by RavesRus; 09-06-2004 at 11:43 PM.

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    ImmmtheIceman is offline Senior Member
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    This shouldnt even be a question. TEST is a base, so you either have test or you have no cycle. Even though the bros on this board will tell you do shoot Sus EOD, I did 500mg per week and got good results. Definitely go with that. Deca only cycles are a big no no. Use the search button, there are plenty of posts on this topic

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    MrMent1on is offline National Level Bodybuilder
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    Test Enanthate would have been prefered, but ince you have sus, go with sus, start the first week with 250mg, then bump it up to 500mg (250mg 2 x week). you would get better results with the deca added, but if you only choose one compound, IMO I would stick with the sus for 10 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMent1on
    Test Enanthate would have been prefered, but ince you have sus, go with sus, start the first week with 250mg, then bump it up to 500mg (250mg 2 x week). you would get better results with the deca added, but if you only choose one compound, IMO I would stick with the sus for 10 weeks.
    No need to taper the dosages. Stick with 500mg a week for 10 weeks.

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    RavesRus is offline New Member
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    what about 250 test e & 200 dec a week 4 10 weeks since could get now?

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    uhhh 200g of protein isnt enough daily, bro.. Try 400g.

    Figure out a bulking diet with how much calories, carbs, protein, and fat you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavesRus
    what about 250 test e & 200 dec a week 4 10 weeks since could get now?

    get rid of the deca and double the test. i think you will like it much better

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    yeah..................been readin and think ill wait a bit and double down on test e and scrap dec....................thnx

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