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    BAD ASS cycle for beginner?!! first cycle ever help!!

    I am 6'4 and my wieght ranges from 230-240, I have about 12% body fat. I am a beginner, I did a 6 week decca only cycle about 3 years ago. I want to get my body to that next level, not only do I want size and strenght I need speed and power for football, I was thinking of taking bold/equipose, test propionate , winny, and anavar how should I cycle this? should I subsitute other roids for better results? what should I, a beginner, expect from a cycle like this? Thanks brothers and sisters for all your advice!! Happy lifting
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    hmmm that seams a little much for a beginner!!! Im personally a fan of low doses of test!! They work great for newbies. I believe that all that stuff together would be over kill and do more harm then good.
    I would stick to some dbol and test or maybe some eq and test.
    next cycle
    prop 300 1- 4
    eq 400 1- 10
    cypa 400 1-10

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    bro you did a deca only cycle? big no, no! anyway what i would do is
    test prop 75-100mg/ed week 1-4
    test enth 500mg week 1-12
    eq 400mg week 1-13
    either winny or the anavar @50mg/ed week 7-13

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    start with a real cycle

    test enanthate for 12 wks with your oral of choise the first 4-6

    no need for a whole bunch of crap in there

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    I have to agree with what BILLY said above!!! Stick with a test base and an oral of your choice. In my opinion and a lot of others too you could gain 25 pounds with just test alone!!! Why waste your money and run 5 things , way to much stuff there buddy!!!

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    ya bro if you're doing this for football and size no need to be useing var and winny.

    Test e for 12 weeks and either dbol , or drol for the first 4 weeks.

    If you really wanted to push it for a first cycle add eq but even that might be a bit much. You gotta rewalize that a key reason why experienced guys use so many more compounds is because they dont respond ne more to low dose cycles. Be thankful that just test and an oral will give you nasty results out of the gate.

    Don't over do it unless u have to.

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    test only is always a good start, or restart

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