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09-08-2004, 06:32 PM #1Associate Member
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is PCT absolutely necessary?
Ok. I have been reading all the info about PCTs. I have a buddy of mine who said for his very first cycle he did not use PCTs and was just fine without them. It was not until he started back to back cycles and using Test-E that he started to use the clomids and nolva etc. His first cycle consisted of Deca 300 and Bold 200. He added about 15-20 pounds over a 12-15 week cycle ( I dont remember exactly how long that cycle lasted. Could someone shed some more light on PCTs. Are they absolutely necessary for the first cycle?
TIA!!
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09-08-2004, 06:35 PM #2LORDBLiTZ Guest
He used deca and eq for a first cycle and it didn't shut him down. I find that hard to believe.
And yes, PCT is absolutely necessary.
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09-08-2004, 06:36 PM #3
Your friend have just been one of the lucky ones...but you sure you want to spin that wheel??
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09-08-2004, 06:38 PM #4Associate Member
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That is what he says. I have no reason not to trust him. What would be good to take with a cycle like that if one was trying to be cautious?
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09-08-2004, 06:38 PM #5Originally Posted by slippin
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09-08-2004, 06:39 PM #6
I dont see why you wouldnt wnat to use it. If it helps you keep more of your gains then WHY NOT!
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09-08-2004, 06:41 PM #7Associate Member
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One reason might be that they are highly expensive. But Russian Roulette can be highly expensive too.
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09-08-2004, 06:44 PM #8Originally Posted by slippin
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09-08-2004, 06:45 PM #9LORDBLiTZ Guest
PCT is dirt cheap! What are you talking about?
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09-08-2004, 06:45 PM #10
You only want to do PCT if,
you want your body to keep the muscle you gained
you want normal sized nuts again
you want your body chemistry back to normal
you want to produce your own testosterone again
you want to be able to maintain an erection for longer than a minute
you do not want to have permanent erectile disfunction at age 30
other than that you can skip it
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09-08-2004, 06:46 PM #11Member
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if you want to make sure your body get's back in check and like to keep your gains, then yes pct is necessary. If you like to gamble, feel free and go without it, good luck.
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09-08-2004, 06:48 PM #12
So well said.
Originally Posted by Gilster
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09-08-2004, 09:20 PM #13Originally Posted by LORDBLiTZ
I remember having to pay 45-50 dollars for 20nolvadex 10mg tabs
and clomid was like 2$ a pill 50mg
HCG sheet might as well have been HGH
PCT used to cost me more than the freakin cycle
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09-09-2004, 01:05 AM #14VET
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Originally Posted by LORDBLiTZ
to not use PCT is UNWISE, considering that it is often the cheapest part of a cycle.
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09-09-2004, 01:08 AM #15Originally Posted by macrophage69alpha
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09-09-2004, 01:09 AM #16Originally Posted by slippin
dont even consider doing a cycle without proper pct
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09-09-2004, 06:07 AM #17Member
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You're buddy had weak gear - that's why he didn't crash.
My first cycle without PCT ended like a train derailment.. bad.
Now i have clomid strips from greece. I plan on keeping my gains.
PCT is the MOST important cycle of a cycle.
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09-09-2004, 06:18 AM #18Originally Posted by Gilster
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09-09-2004, 06:23 AM #19
man clomid is so cheap i got lie 4 bottles of it chillin
in the stash now.
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09-09-2004, 06:59 AM #20
No excuse NOT to run pct. Its NOT like going out to eat and ordering dessert (if you get it the more the better, but if you don't no lose). Rather, its more like the baked potatoe that comes with the steak. Its part of the dinner and without it, you can't say you had a good steak dinner.
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09-09-2004, 07:10 AM #21Associate Member
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well my cousin has done a good bit of cycles and sometimes he doesent run anti estrogens and the last few cycles he did no pct. he doesent have gyno or anything like that, the only noticable difference that i can tell is that after a cycle he looses a good bit of size but he is still huge because he had a great base when he started. when i do steroids i will definitly take anti es and good pct without a doubt. dont do a cycle without it!!!!just my opinion.
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