Supps required for tren usage?

**NotSmall** · 09-10-2004, 02:29 PM

OK, so I know I need B6 for tren usage, to combat prolactin right? My question is - can I use oral B6 or do I have to get injectable?

Anything else I should be taking while on the tren?

**Dally** · 09-10-2004, 02:36 PM

oral is fine, inject if you want.

200mg ed is the goin dose.

you could supplement alot of other things really, but its up to you and your wallet.

drink alot of water, eat a good mulitvitamin ed, maybe some milk thistle to help the liver .. with cranberry juice etc etc.

good to go.

**NotSmall** · 09-10-2004, 02:43 PM

Cheers bro!
I have some strong b-complex tabs that have 100mg B6 so if I pop two of them a dcay I should be set right?

**NotSmall** · 09-10-2004, 03:13 PM

Any other tips anyone?

**Matto20** · 09-10-2004, 03:54 PM

Keep your fingers crossed.

**Johnnystick77** · 09-10-2004, 03:56 PM

Dally summed it up for you pretty good there...he even through in some cranberry for your kidneys...you shouldn't need much more bro, you're good

**Dally** · 09-10-2004, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by NotSmall

Cheers bro!
I have some strong b-complex tabs that have 100mg B6 so if I pop two of them a dcay I should be set right?

I have them too, but personally I would go out and get some b6 tabs specifically... there cheap mang!

later bro

**DoctaBig** · 09-10-2004, 06:15 PM

just fyi... cranberries do not possess any nephroprotective properties. The old wise tale about cranberries pertains to urinary tract infections. There is a polymer in cranberries that is renally excreted; once it reaches the bladder it forms a protective barrier between the bladder wall and the contents. This barrier prevents adhesion of microbes to the bladder wall (source of a UTI).

basically...unless you really like cranberry juice, it's a waste.

**DoctaBig** · 09-10-2004, 06:16 PM

lol matto...your avatar cracks me up every time i see it

**Dally** · 09-10-2004, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by DoctaBig

just fyi... cranberries do not possess any nephroprotective properties. The old wise tale about cranberries pertains to urinary tract infections. There is a polymer in cranberries that is renally excreted; once it reaches the bladder it forms a protective barrier between the bladder wall and the contents. This barrier prevents adhesion of microbes to the bladder wall (source of a UTI).

basically...unless you really like cranberry juice, it's a waste.

what about the dsi implation of the cornea?

gotcha on that one eh?

it works trust me.

**DoctaBig** · 09-10-2004, 06:32 PM

im aware of a pericardium occular implant for increasing IOP....no idea what DSI is though.....

When you say it works....what does it work for???

**Bryan2** · 09-10-2004, 07:48 PM

Yes but it is also a strong diuretic which adds to keeping the urinary system flushed

But your saying it does nothing directly with kidney health right? im confused if its really worth taking?

**DoctaBig** · 09-10-2004, 11:44 PM

the diuretic action is because of two thing's....1) its a liquid and 2) the small amount of that compound that is cleared by the kidney offsets the osmotic barrier. You would be better off with caffeine if you wanted a diuretic.

IMO...not necessary at all. Just for reference sake, the standard dose of cranberry juice for someone looking to get enough active compound into the bladder to have any effect at all is 1-2 liter's a day.....That is a heck of a lot of cranberry juice!!!