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    test deca and d-bol but....

    ok so i've read test, deca , & d-bol is a good bulking combination. i want to bulk but not in a practical joke kind of way. I would like to weigh around 170-180lbs but im not sure about any more than that. i'm currently at 157lbs, just got off a cycle of sust about a month and a half ago, and i am strong for my size (benched 405 at 165lbs).

    Say I have these...

    QV Deca 300 10ml
    QV Metavet (D-Bol) 10mg 100 tabs
    QV T-250 10ml
    Nolvadex 10mg 100 tabs

    Is this all i need for a good cycle?
    How could I use these?
    Should I get some "QV Stan10 (Winstrol ) 10mg 100 tabs" also?
    What about Clomid?

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    you need quite a bit more deca and test.

    RESEARCH MORE

    Yes you need clomid.

    http://www.steroid.com/novicecycle1.php

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    The novice cycles al state Nolvadex 20mg everyday from Day one. Is that really necessary ? All the research I have done states that you should use it if you get symptons then at end of cycle go for it for three weeks. Whats the story guys ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanw
    The novice cycles al state Nolvadex 20mg everyday from Day one. Is that really necessary ? All the research I have done states that you should use it if you get symptons then at end of cycle go for it for three weeks. Whats the story guys ?
    start a thread about it

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    you should have at least 30ml of test and 20ml of deca . some people blow up in a-practical-joke-sorta-way but if you are naturally a hard gainer then count on gaining an average of 1 solid pound per week on that cycle you might only gain 10-15 pounds on a 10-12 week cycle.

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    thanks for the advice ill get some more test and deca . and clomid thanks again

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    unless your lucky like me. im doing i cycle similer to that but way higher doses and am on wek 11 and have gained about 25 pounds of lbm. i barley put on any water at all. i have a very clean diet and eat about 400grams of protein a day. if a gained water id probably be over 35lbs by now. actually im not really sure what week im on for sure but i think its around 11. i didnt really keep track. im going to switch up my gear around week 20 then stay on for another 20 and really harden up.

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