How long to notice?

**GrimmReaper** · 09-13-2004, 12:53 PM

I'm about to run a cycle of 250/deca /wk and 400/eqipoise/wk....this will be my second cycle....how long will it be before my wieght and size start shooting back up? i know it varies on person to person, but on average is what im asking??????????

**Duke of Earl** · 09-13-2004, 12:56 PM

uh-oh! get ready for it.......

**juicin in ok** · 09-13-2004, 12:57 PM

throw in some test bro

**GrimmReaper** · 09-13-2004, 12:58 PM

****, im sorry i meant test ethante inplance of the Equipoise

**GrimmReaper** · 09-13-2004, 12:58 PM

and im running the test e at 500mg a week

**Duke of Earl** · 09-13-2004, 12:59 PM

phew! that was close!!

**Braz_Machine** · 09-13-2004, 12:59 PM

what was your first cycle?????

**GrimmReaper** · 09-13-2004, 12:59 PM

haha, sorry....what do you guys think 500mg test e and 250mg deca per week? how long til one could start blowing back up????????

**)(PimP JuicE)(** · 09-13-2004, 01:00 PM

throw dbol in for 1-4wks 30mgED you wont have to wait.

but if you wait it took my test till wk 6 to kick in.

**Duke of Earl** · 09-13-2004, 01:00 PM

for me it's 4 weeks +

**GrimmReaper** · 09-13-2004, 01:01 PM

my first cycle was just 250mg of test e a week over 10 weeks....my bench went up like 100lbs, and i went from 181 to 210, but diet was a key part

**GrimmReaper** · 09-13-2004, 01:05 PM

what do you think braz/duck??????????

**fitter-happier** · 09-13-2004, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by GrimmReaper

haha, sorry....what do you guys think 500mg test e and 250mg deca per week? how long til one could start blowing back up????????

the strength increases probably won't come around until after the third week starts, give or take a day or two. that, in combination with your diet, will having you putting on massive gains. you, yourself, should notice an increase in size at one month, but a lot of other people might take notice after the second or third week.
after that, sky's the limit

**GrimmReaper** · 09-13-2004, 01:08 PM

thanks fitter, anyone else got an opinionn?

**Braz_Machine** · 09-13-2004, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by )(PimP JuicE)(

throw dbol in for 1-4wks 30mgED you wont have to wait.

but if you wait it took my test till wk 6 to kick in.

Exactally PinP,

With those kind of gains it sounds like you know how to eat and train the right way. Just do the same with this cycle and you will grow.

Braz_Machine

**GrimmReaper** · 09-13-2004, 01:15 PM

thanks a lot braz, appriciate it fellas

**JdFlex** · 09-13-2004, 02:34 PM

If your training and nutrition are 100%, I say you will start to see gains the beginning of the 3rd week.

**ODC0717** · 09-13-2004, 02:38 PM

I'd bump the deca to 300-400mg ew. 250mg is too low, IMO, unless you're running it for your joints.

**fitter-happier** · 09-14-2004, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by ODC0717

I'd bump the deca to 300-400mg ew. 250mg is too low, IMO, unless you're running it for your joints.

curious about this, because i thought deca was good for water retention, which should be fine on your joints, as least when you compare it to something like winny. and if that's the case, toxicity levels aside, is there any reason why he shouldn't be running it at 300-400mg/week?

**AustrianOAK14** · 09-14-2004, 01:05 PM

throw in sum test and deca and eq are the same anabolic basically y did you decide to run both at the same time there basically the same thing bro

**J_Rod245** · 09-14-2004, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by ODC0717

I'd bump the deca to 300-400mg ew. 250mg is too low, IMO, unless you're running it for your joints.

I totally agree. 250 a week isnt quite enought. I would run at least 400 but probably more like 5-600. If you just have those two things and cant get any test then I would think you would start to see some results by around week three as well. Nutrition and training has to be perfect. If it is then you will love those two together

**crackle** · 09-14-2004, 01:51 PM

AustrianOAK, read the thread bro.

**MIKE_XXL** · 09-14-2004, 01:53 PM

This kind of post always amuses me...first a young guy get's unpatient and does not want to wait for results to come, so they jump on the souce...then they get unpatient while on the juice...first train clean for 2-3 years then use gear...and doesn't anyone research anything anymore...if this is your second cycle i would think you would know how long it takes to get results from these items they are both long lasting esters so it will take a bit of time...as for doses, i run lots of cycles and can tell you that even my 5th cycle i only took Sust250 every 4 days and deca at 200mg/week and with right training and diet i gained muscle...so let's stop telling people to increase the dosages and start telling them to improve their training and eating...fak i am clean right now and with proper training i am gaining weight, slowely but surely...here is my rant for the day

...XXL

**SKiN** · 09-14-2004, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by MIKE_XXL

This kind of post always amuses me...first a young guy get's unpatient and does not want to wait for results to come, so they jump on the souce...then they get unpatient while on the juice...first train clean for 2-3 years then use gear...and doesn't anyone research anything anymore...if this is your second cycle i would think you would know how long it takes to get results from these items they are both long lasting esters so it will take a bit of time...as for doses, i run lots of cycles and can tell you that even my 5th cycle i only took Sust250 every 4 days and deca at 200mg/week and with right training and diet i gained muscle...so let's stop telling people to increase the dosages and start telling them to improve their training and eating...fak i am clean right now and with proper training i am gaining weight, slowely but surely...here is my rent for the day

...XXL

I agree 100%...