09-15-2004, 04:44 AM #1
Combining Steroids with Pro-Hormones
does anyone do this or recomend doin this?
i am currently on a test.e/ d-bol/ winny cycle and was considering throwing in 2 weeks of M1T in the last 2 weeks of my cycle in order to go into PCT as strong as possible
what do you guys reckon?
09-16-2004, 03:59 AM #2
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09-16-2004, 07:13 AM #4
if you are doing the winny at the end of the cycle i say no, because you shouldnt stack m1t with another oral. M1T is very hepatoxic to the liver. show us what your cycle looks like and give your stats
09-16-2004, 07:52 AM #5
09-17-2004, 01:31 AM #6Originally Posted by bigordie
ok, my cycle looks like this:
weeks 1 - 4: D-Bol 30mg/day
weeks 1 - 10: test e 500mg/week
weeks 7 - 12: winstrol 50mg/day
i'm actually doing winstrol depot, considered the tabs as they are A LOT cheaper, but i wanted the extra strength of the depot.
-by the way do you think 50mg injections everyday is too much for a first cycle???
-should i do 50mg EOD instead????
09-17-2004, 01:33 AM #7Originally Posted by shorty2big
milk thistle and/or legalon are a good idea
i know these help your liver but i dont know how effective they are?
do they completely prevent liver damage or just minimise it?
09-17-2004, 07:25 AM #8
for a first cycle you have enough compounds already and you will grow fine there is no need to add the m1t in there. Second i would take the test e to 12 weeks and keep the winni at ED. I assume you are running proper pct as well. and no milk thistle will not completely prevent liver damage but it will help your liver with all the stress you are putting on it.
09-17-2004, 08:22 AM #9
so winny @ 50mg a day to finish at the same time as test?
i have enough to run the test for 12 weeks but shouldnt the test be ended 2 weeks before the winny
for PCT i will be using clomid (300/100/50), nolva (20-30g/day) and tribulus for 3 weeks. starting the day after my last winny shot
also gonna start using creatine, glutamine and clenbuterol during PCT
09-17-2004, 08:40 AM #10
09-17-2004, 08:41 AM #11
09-17-2004, 08:49 AM #12
remember this though, i dont know what your goals from this cycle are but bulk first then cut..."you cant carve the incredible hulk out of paris hilton, bulk first then cut." -House of Pain Ironwear
09-17-2004, 09:02 AM #13Originally Posted by bigordie
yeah that looks good
09-17-2004, 09:06 AM #14Originally Posted by bigordie
i've already added 27 lbs in 5 weeks
i started at 165lbs, am now at 192lbs
i've got a bit of fat around the midsection though which i want to shift while maintaining the bulk i have already gained - which is the reason for the clen
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