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    Combining Steroids with Pro-Hormones

    does anyone do this or recomend doin this?

    i am currently on a test.e/ d-bol/ winny cycle and was considering throwing in 2 weeks of M1T in the last 2 weeks of my cycle in order to go into PCT as strong as possible

    what do you guys reckon?

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    anyone........

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    if you are doing the winny at the end of the cycle i say no, because you shouldnt stack m1t with another oral. M1T is very hepatoxic to the liver. show us what your cycle looks like and give your stats

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    I'm stacking M1T with Tren . I'm sure my liver loves it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigordie
    if you are doing the winny at the end of the cycle i say no, because you shouldnt stack m1t with another oral. M1T is very hepatoxic to the liver. show us what your cycle looks like and give your stats

    ok, my cycle looks like this:

    weeks 1 - 4: D-Bol 30mg/day
    weeks 1 - 10: test e 500mg/week
    weeks 7 - 12: winstrol 50mg/day


    i'm actually doing winstrol depot, considered the tabs as they are A LOT cheaper, but i wanted the extra strength of the depot.


    -by the way do you think 50mg injections everyday is too much for a first cycle???

    -should i do 50mg EOD instead????

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    Quote Originally Posted by shorty2big
    I'm stacking M1T with Tren. I'm sure my liver loves it.



    milk thistle and/or legalon are a good idea

    i know these help your liver but i dont know how effective they are?
    do they completely prevent liver damage or just minimise it?

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    for a first cycle you have enough compounds already and you will grow fine there is no need to add the m1t in there. Second i would take the test e to 12 weeks and keep the winni at ED. I assume you are running proper pct as well. and no milk thistle will not completely prevent liver damage but it will help your liver with all the stress you are putting on it.

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    so winny @ 50mg a day to finish at the same time as test?

    i have enough to run the test for 12 weeks but shouldnt the test be ended 2 weeks before the winny

    for PCT i will be using clomid (300/100/50), nolva (20-30g/day) and tribulus for 3 weeks. starting the day after my last winny shot

    also gonna start using creatine, glutamine and clenbuterol during PCT

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    dbol 1-4 30mg ED
    test e 1-12 500mg/week
    winni 10-14 50mg ED
    nolva 1-12 10mg ED 13-17 20mg ED
    clomid either 300/100/50 or 100 all the way through

    good luck bro, you will grow like a weed

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    dbol 1-4 30mg ED
    test e 1-12 500mg/week
    winni 10-14 50mg ED
    nolva 1-12 10mg ED 13-17 20mg ED
    clomid either 300/100/50 or 100 all the way through

    good luck bro, you will grow like a weed

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    remember this though, i dont know what your goals from this cycle are but bulk first then cut..."you cant carve the incredible hulk out of paris hilton, bulk first then cut." -House of Pain Ironwear

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigordie
    dbol 1-4 30mg ED
    test e 1-12 500mg/week
    winni 10-14 50mg ED
    nolva 1-12 10mg ED 13-17 20mg ED
    clomid either 300/100/50 or 100 all the way through

    good luck bro, you will grow like a weed

    yeah that looks good

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigordie
    remember this though, i dont know what your goals from this cycle are but bulk first then cut..."you cant carve the incredible hulk out of paris hilton, bulk first then cut." -House of Pain Ironwear

    i've already added 27 lbs in 5 weeks

    i started at 165lbs, am now at 192lbs

    i've got a bit of fat around the midsection though which i want to shift while maintaining the bulk i have already gained - which is the reason for the clen

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