Ok i just put in my order for my 2nd cycle and I will be using prop. Now i've heard that the pain is pretty bad. but i figure that I can handle it. Then i talk to my buddie that has used it in the past and he says its unbearable and you can olny handle it if you shoot in the glute. Well now he has got me nervious becuse I love to shot in the delts. From any one elses experiance does it sound like my buddy is just a bitch.