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    Question STARTING CYCLE!!!!! some replies Please

    This is my 4th cycle (2nd serious one) I am looking to gain 4kg of pure quality muscle, from 76 to 80kg.

    Di-bol - week 1-5
    Deca - week 2-9
    Parabolan - week 3 - 8
    Winstrol - week 6 - 11
    Clenbuterol - week 8 -11
    PCT - week 11-13

    Di bol - 35mg e/d
    Deca - week 1-2 200mg 3-6 300mg 7-8 200mg
    Parabolan- 76mg 2 times a week
    Winstrol - not yet sure how much

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    IMO, u should get a test in there. what kind of para are you using?

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    I think its NEGMA LABS (parabolan )
    I want to use parablan since it does not convert into estrogens since I am very prone for gyno

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    Maybe run some Test Prop @ 100 mgs a day for weeks 1-9. The winny you should run 50mgs ED as well

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    Does Test prop aromatise? I am very concerned about gyno altough I will be taking Nolvadex 15mg e/d trough cycle and 20mg e/d for PCT

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    Quote Originally Posted by bolin
    Does Test prop aromatise? I am very concerned about gyno altough I will be taking Nolvadex 15mg e/d trough cycle and 20mg e/d for PCT
    yes but not bad imo, water retention is low but with anti'es shouldnt be a problem. also the para is FAKE 99% of the time so drop it. and replace with test. as far as gyno is concerened 10-20mg of nolvadex and .25 of l-dex will help tons from getting gyno.. but test is a very good idea

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    I have finished my 3 cycle and for the first time I used Testeverone depot and a lump starting to grow under the nipple (at the end of the cycle) while I was taking 10mg of Nolvadex daily!!!!! It never happened to me even with D-Bols, Sustaon and Deca

    That is why I am afraid of taking it, or is Test Prop less converted to Estrogensthan Testeveron Depot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bolin
    I have finished my 3 cycle and for the first time I used Testeverone depot and a lump starting to grow under the nipple (at the end of the cycle) while I was taking 10mg of Nolvadex daily!!!!! It never happened to me even with D-Bols, Sustaon and Deca

    That is why I am afraid of taking it, or is Test Prop less converted to Estrogensthan Testeveron Depot?
    imo yes but test is tes.. stick with single esters bro. are you trying to bulk ro cut?

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    I am trying to bulk but in the same time gain quality muscle

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