Winstrol question

**t1murph1** · 08-10-2004, 09:15 PM

Hello everyone, I am a new member as well as a new user. I have done plenty of research but have not yet began taking anything. My goal is to gain only 5-10 pounds of muscle and mostly increase strength. I plan to start by taking only Winstrol , 25 mg twice a day orally. To start I do not want to stack it with anything. Can anyone tell me how much success they had by using the product by itself? Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you very much.

**dive_kid** · 08-10-2004, 09:17 PM

winstrol only is not really a great Idea. Winni does shut you down. you should use test as well.
better yet you might try a test only for your first

**scotttiger54** · 08-10-2004, 09:22 PM

oral only cycles suck ass. run test prop at 75ed for 10 weeks.

**lukeduke01** · 08-10-2004, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by dive_kid

winstrol only is not really a great Idea. Winni does shut you down. you should use test as well.
better yet you might try a test only for your first

I second that, winny alone sucks rectum, but if it didnt I would do the injections but thats neither here nor there. If you want to only gain 5-10 lbs. then save your liver and your balls from the winny and just eat more calories and protein.

**t1murph1** · 08-10-2004, 09:32 PM

dive, can I ask what you mean when you say winnie shuts you down? The reason I was going to take winnie alone is simply because it sounded like it didn't have many of the side effects (i.e. testicle shrinkage) as many of the testosterones.

**t1murph1** · 08-10-2004, 09:34 PM

another quick thing i should add, it is important to me that the gains I make are lasting gains, i think i've read that winstrol was a better product for building quality muscle. Is this not true?

**dive_kid** · 08-10-2004, 10:06 PM

winstrol does produce good lasting gains, but so will any as, if you do proper training/diet/pct.
winni does shut(your nuts) you down but not to the same degree as others. If you want 10 lbs, I would go with a test only and proper pct. I did a winni only and did not get **** for results. I felt like **** and was pissed off all the time.
it is also 17aa(hard on the liver). I threw a bit of test in...the gains went up and I felt really good all the time.
This is just my opinion. any one else wanna add?

**lukeduke01** · 08-10-2004, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by dive_kid

winstrol does produce good lasting gains, but so will any as, if you do proper training/diet/pct.
winni does shut(your nuts) you down but not to the same degree as others. If you want 10 lbs, I would go with a test only and proper pct. I did a winni only and did not get **** for results. I felt like **** and was pissed off all the time.
it is also 17aa(hard on the liver). I threw a bit of test in...the gains went up and I felt really good all the time.
This is just my opinion. any one else wanna add?

I agree.

**t1murph1** · 08-10-2004, 10:20 PM

I appreciate the input, it is very helpful. Any suggestions on what specifically to take it with? I see sample stacks that combine it with numerous products.

**thejuiceisloose** · 08-10-2004, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by t1murph1

I appreciate the input, it is very helpful. Any suggestions on what specifically to take it with? I see sample stacks that combine it with numerous products.

You can run TEST CYP 500mg EW week 1-12

**dive_kid** · 08-10-2004, 10:23 PM

Winni is eod, might add test prop with it

**lukeduke01** · 08-10-2004, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by dive_kid

Winni is eod, might add test prop with it

Youll see a lot better results running the winny ED instead of EOD. If youve got the orals,then theres really no reason to go EOD anyways. I would definately have test in any cycle that you do so I would suggest Eq/test prop/winny. that will produce good quality gains and youll keep most of it with proper PCT. Thats one of my personal favs.

**thejuiceisloose** · 08-10-2004, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by dive_kid

Winni is eod, might add test prop with it

You want to run Winny 50mg ED for 6 weeks to keep blood levels stable.
For Example Test Cyp 500mg EW week 1-12
Winny 50mg ED week 6-12. Then hopefully you have your PCT setup

**dive_kid** · 08-10-2004, 10:30 PM

sorry. I thought ya were shooting winni. so i figured eod with prop. ed is best

**thejuiceisloose** · 08-10-2004, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by dive_kid

sorry. I thought ya were shooting winni. so i figured eod with prop. ed is best

Remember you can drink Winny too

**dive_kid** · 08-10-2004, 10:32 PM

lets not start with this......lol

**thejuiceisloose** · 08-10-2004, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by dive_kid

lets not start with this......lol

i love it!

**dive_kid** · 08-10-2004, 10:46 PM

it opens a can of worms......yep you can drink winni

**Decat** · 08-11-2004, 12:07 AM

Test should always be the base of every cycle.
Try Prop, if you can handle the everyday shots.
It's less bloating than other tests.

**johnny1234** · 09-20-2004, 12:11 PM

what if u stack 1 ad with winstrol 50mg ed. for 6 weeks how would that be, would winstrol shut u down and also use pct at the end of 6 weeks suchas clomid.