When does the weight gain come on a Sust only cycle, wot week ?

**needbigguns** · 09-19-2004, 04:40 PM

I am into my 2nd week of a sust only cycle and have been taking 500mg a week. Had 4 shots so far and was wondering when i should expect to see some weight gain.

Iv been training 3 times a week and eating well, just wondering when i should start to expect something.

I know it is only early in the cycle and i am not complaining, i have been taking nolva every day and do not think i have retained any water yet.

Any feedback much appreciated.

Cheeers

**Froggy** · 09-19-2004, 04:58 PM

Week Three if your lucky...week four maybe...but in week five it should most definitely be on....Bro....Check your nuts....

**symatech** · 09-19-2004, 05:05 PM

depending on your diet it should be around 4-5 weeks. Also, no need for three threads

**DEVLDOG** · 09-19-2004, 05:16 PM

kicks in week 5 for me..why only train 3x week...nows the time to get in the gym bro

**needbigguns** · 09-20-2004, 09:13 AM

fort trainign 3 times a week was gud practice ? how much do u sugest i train then ?

What do people mean when they say, Kicks In?

Do you feel different ?

Tnx

**djboots** · 09-20-2004, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by needbigguns

fort trainign 3 times a week was gud practice ? how much do u sugest i train then ?

What do people mean when they say, Kicks In?

Do you feel different ?

Tnx

yes you do feel differant, you will have strong pumps while working out and a big ass hard on all day. I think with three days a week your wasting your money. you should be in there at least five days. In three days how can you even work each muscle group

**Braz_Machine** · 09-20-2004, 10:29 AM

I work one body part a day. This way I can concentrate on the body part I am training and I won't overtrain. I see you are taking nolvadex . If you are not developing gyno then do not take it. Nolv. slows your gains down. A person not taking nolv will achieve greater gains than a person taking nolv.

You must eat 4000-6000 cal/ed and 350g protein/ed or more. Using good quality clean foods. The better your nutrition, the better the AS will work. Nutrition is everything.

Braz_Machine

**AandF6969** · 09-20-2004, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Braz_Machine

Nolv. slows your gains down. A person not taking nolv will achieve greater gains than a person taking nolv.

You must eat 4000-6000 cal/ed and 350g protein/ed or more. Using good quality clean foods. The better your nutrition, the better the AS will work. Nutrition is everything.

I agree with you about the nutrition being the most important aspect of building muscle. But do you have any sources for your opinion on Nolvadex , a selective estrogen receptor modulator, hindering gains?

**Braz_Machine** · 09-20-2004, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by AandF6969

I agree with you about the nutrition being the most important aspect of building muscle. But do you have any sources for your opinion on Nolvadex , a selective estrogen receptor modulator, hindering gains?

They talk about it all the time in Muscle-Mag or Flex. I can't remember which one. My buddy was reading it to me over the phone.

**needbigguns** · 09-20-2004, 12:57 PM

Every post iv read just about says to take nolva as it also stops bloat yes ?

Tnx

**MIKE_XXL** · 09-20-2004, 07:55 PM

I would keep taking Nolva, the amount of potencial gains you will be loosing by using Nolvadex might be 5-10%, it's not a big differance...food is the key, and you might want to up the training to 4 days a week...XXL