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    1500 mgs of enanthate!!!!!!!!!!!!

    in a week im starting 1500mgs of enanthate for 12 weeks...also im doing 600mgs of tren a week. I wanna get bigger like gain about 30lbs....but i wanted to get much harder..what else can i add besides gh to get me harder..i have acess to get anything and everything

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    how many cycles have u done in teh past thats to much for a
    beginner. Winny and eq.

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    how many cycles have u done in teh past thats to much for a
    beginner. Winny and eq.

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    # of cycles?

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    wow a gram and a half.. That's quite a bit bro..

    through some winny in there.

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    I dont think he will have much trouble at all gaining 30 pounds
    running that much test.

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    i did 3 cycles.last one was 8 monthes long..i need to get much harder tooo.what can i add.. i think the tren will help

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    i personaly

    have run 1500mgs a week and 1000mgs a week. not much difference for me personally except for the sides

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    he could probably gain it on 1/2 that dosage

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEVLDOG
    he could probably gain it on 1/2 that dosage

    My bro gained 25 lbs on 750mg..

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    how much did u gain with a gram of test???how much will the tren help???

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    bro,your only 21?? how much do you weigh?? you dont need that much test at your age and only 3 cycles under your belt

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    Quote Originally Posted by getinbig
    My bro gained 25 lbs on 750mg..
    my point exactly

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    They always think the more you take the better off you are..

    WRONG!!!!

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    im 5'11 251 14% b/f 34inch waist..54 inch chest...18 3/4 inch arms...not too vascular..have a few veins..i wanna get alot bigger but need to cut bodyfat also what can i add

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    Bro, I gained 40lbs off 250 Test E, and 200 EQ a week. Thats a total of 450mgs.

    I dont think that high of a quanity is necessary at all.



    ( i should add... that was my frist cycle. Probably the reason for such growth.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyJuice
    im 5'11 251 14% b/f 34inch waist..54 inch chest...18 3/4 inch arms...not too vascular..have a few veins..i wanna get alot bigger but need to cut bodyfat also what can i add

    Cut your body fat before you start the cycle.

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    Fosho Eastcoster tell him

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    i thought 100mgs of tren a day will help me cut bodyfat

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastCoaster
    Cut your body fat before you start the cycle.
    yeah,definatley..you dont want to run test when your bf levels are on the high side as it gets stored in the fat and then when you do eventually drop the bf it gets released into your blood and if your not running any anti e's at the time and arent expecting a spike in your levels,your setting yourself up for gyno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyJuice
    i thought 100mgs of tren a day will help me cut bodyfat
    the only thing that will help you cut body fat is DIET DIET DIET!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyJuice
    i thought 100mgs of tren a day will help me cut bodyfat
    the only thing that helps cut BF is DIET and CARDIO bro,,the gear is just icening on the cake so to speak

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    I am currently running 1200 of test/wk.............EQ or winny or fvck it both.......sides are not to bad at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyJuice
    i thought 100mgs of tren a day will help me cut bodyfat


    Tren will help yes, but with that much test you're going to be bulking. When you bulk, you put on some fat.


    Take a few months, get up in the AM and do cardio. Its hard, but it works. You wont see results right away... its chess, not checkers. Get your body fat down then you'll see come vascularity. Then run your cycle and put on some quality muscle on your ripped body.

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    my diet is really good, i just dont do cardio...my friend swears tren auctually cuts bodyfat...i mean anavar with diet brought my b/f down 3% in 8 weeks

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    i dont mind doing cardio just dont wanna eat muscle

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    Like I said... Its chess, not checkers.

    If you want the results, you gotta put in the time. Do some cardio... sure you're going to lose some muscle along the way, but you're setting yourself up for something better. Then run the cycle when your happy with your body fat.

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    Anavar is very safe probably one of the safest on
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    Var kills my appetite, that's why I lose BF while on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastCoaster
    Bro, I gained 40lbs off 250 Test E, and 200 EQ a week. Thats a total of 450mgs.

    I dont think that high of a quanity is necessary at all.



    ( i should add... that was my frist cycle. Probably the reason for such growth.)
    That may work for you but is a huge generalization. It's his body and if he wants to try 1.5 grams good for him. We all react diffferently. You definately need anti-e's. The tren should harden you up without having to add anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyJuice
    i thought 100mgs of tren a day will help me cut bodyfat
    Yes it will. I speeds up your metabolism. By about the 5th week you'll be noticably more vascular. You do risk gyno with those doses. I never had any trouble before I hit 750/wk sus and 700/wk tren . I had to cut back until I got the gyno down. Now starting 1 gram/week sus and 700/wk tren. All the true freaky guys I know do a minimum of 1 gram and most 1.5 grams at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEVLDOG
    yeah,definatley..you dont want to run test when your bf levels are on the high side as it gets stored in the fat and then when you do eventually drop the bf it gets released into your blood and if your not running any anti e's at the time and arent expecting a spike in your levels,your setting yourself up for gyno.
    Where did you hear that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEVLDOG
    yeah,definatley..you dont want to run test when your bf levels are on the high side as it gets stored in the fat and then when you do eventually drop the bf it gets released into your blood and if your not running any anti e's at the time and arent expecting a spike in your levels,your setting yourself up for gyno.
    This is not really correct. Metabolites of different AAS do get stored in fat cells, but they are useless once released. The big problem with fat and aromatizing AAS is that fat containes the aromatase enzyme. The more fat you have the more aromatase and when combined with certain AAS the more estrogen you get. This can be remedied easily with an AI.

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    750 is plenty id say to get results aslo id gowtih sustanon bc of the prop in it to get you hard. im 6'6 264 i was 240 before cycle and hit up to 273. again it was my first cycle but usually more isnt better, thsi is just my opinion good luck man

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    Quote Originally Posted by partyboynyc
    have run 1500mgs a week and 1000mgs a week. not much difference for me personally except for the sides
    and imo more sides for him= more bloat
    hav'nt found a reason to go more than 800mg(cyp) or 750 any other test

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    dude i gained 30lbs on 2000mgs of test a week and 900mgs of deca in 7 weeks. then i started the armidex,b-6 and nolva to keep the water down. also started tren then to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pietro75
    dude i gained 30lbs on 2000mgs of test a week and 900mgs of deca in 7 weeks. then i started the armidex,b-6 and nolva to keep the water down. also started tren then to.

    Are you serious? 2900mgs a week?

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    well yes but 2000 test and 900 deca . its the cycle im still on right now. i keep changing it and throwing more stuff in. i like to gain as much as i can the first 10 weeks then switch to prop, winny, tren , ans eq and harden up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pietro75
    dude i gained 30lbs on 2000mgs of test a week and 900mgs of deca in 7 weeks. then i started the armidex,b-6 and nolva to keep the water down. also started tren then to.
    Fuk man thats alot... How was it?

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