anybody ever thought of doing a 23 weeker?

im thinking of it, and its just gonna be a simple one let me know what you guys thing of it, and what suggestions you have on anti E. obvously i wanna take nova during, but im thinking of the many other Anti E's to pick from. im also thinking of using some HCG to keep the nuts alive.

1-20 Test E 500MG/WK
1-20 EQ 400 MG/WK
20-23 Test Prop 50MG/ED

week 24 start PCT with nova and clomid.

stats are 5'8" 185lbs about 8% body fat. im tired of being small, i wanna be over 210 cut, and im thinking this will help quite a bit. its either this or im just gonna do a normal 13 weeker during winter for bulking up

Im on week ten of this with some tweaking
I could go 26 if I feel like it :)



week 1
M 1cc prop 1cc deca
T 1cc prop 1cc enanth
W 1cc prop 1 deca
Th 1cc prop 1cc Test
F1cc Prop
S 1cc Prop
Sn 1cc Prop

week 2

M 1cc Prop 1cc deca
T 1cc Prop 1cc test
W 1cc Prp 1cc deca
th 1cc Prop
F 1cc Prop 1cc test
S 1cc Prop
Sn 1Prop

Week 3 (start nolvadex 10mg a day thorugh beggining of pct)

M1 cc Prop 1cc Deca
T 1cc Prop 1cc Enan
W 1cc Prop 1cc Deca
T 1cc Prop 1cc Enan
F 1cc Prop
S 1cc Prop
Sn 1cc Prop

Week 4 8/23

M 1cc Deca, 1cc test
T
W
Th 1cc test 1cc Deca


Week 5-10

600mg deca and 1500 test ( split bwtween Mon and Thur)

Week 11-20
1500mg test aweek
600mg tren enanthate week

14 days after last test shot start

PCT (20ng of nolvadex a day for 30 days)
100mg clomid
day
30mg nolva day

im in week 1 of a 25er. Test, eq, more test and fina. So I have some work to do, see ya in 25 weeks. :)

My last cycle lasted six months........ 24 weeks. It's a long time to do ED injections though....... by the end of the cycle I was happy not to have to poke myself.

Long cycles are the way to go IMO.

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Originally Posted by TheMudMan

My last cycle lasted six months........ 24 weeks. It's a long time to do ED injections though....... by the end of the cycle I was happy not to have to poke myself.

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Amen brother

yes jc actually I have but mainly because I play a sport and dont
want to lose anything for a while.

I've been on a total of about 22 weeks now...
The one thing I've found is your gains seem
to be much more solid the longer you run the
cycle... More quality gains versus the quick
gains you get from a 10-12 week cycle...
I say go for it JC, cycle looks good to me...

i think this thread has enticed me to extend my 15 week cycle even longer.......thanx guys :)

I'm on week 5 of a long cycle, 25+ weeks. I think with long cycles its important to use HCG at 500ius 2x a week starting at about the middle of the cycle. Also, taking proviron at 25-50mg ed during the second half will help lower SHBG and allow for an easier recovery. I'll also be using slin and IGF-1 LR3 during pct, so while the boys are getting running again I'll still be able to make gains.

It's good to see the vets chime in on these kind of topics.

Not only do I like to run at least 18+ week cycles, but I tend to run certain compounds longer than most people recommend. For example, my last cycle was def my best. I ran tren for 10+ weeks, and loved the quality gains. Chest, shoulder, and back have def kept its size since I have been off (2 months).

I am about to do a 15 weeker pure bulk but my next cycle i am gonna try to a 18-22 weeker and call it quits.

I'm going for 6 months this time around.

I've done long cycles ....I just got off a 1 year long cycle 4 months ago . Here is the thing about long cycles. It is very hard to eat that much for that long. Most people end up getting real good results for the first 12-17 weeks then see rapid weight loss. They get sick or something in their lives changes and they can't focus on trinning. I would stick to 8 weeks and extend a few weeks if you are still growing. I've seen alot of guys end up extending there cycle because they added something and got sick and lost 10 pounds. If your going to run long cycles use HCG 2 times a week threw the cycle 500 iu. letrozole is the best thing for estrogen control ...and it raises IGF levels by 27%.. lift heavy, eat well and listen you your research subject and make adjustments.

THanx lion thats good info.

ok here's what ive decided to do

1 - 4 Tren A 75mg/ED
1 - 20 Test E 500mg/WK
1 - 20 EQ 400mg/WK
21 - 23 Test Prop 50mg/ED
starting week 10 400I.U. HCG/E4D
B6 200mg/ed threw out
milk thistle threw out
1 - 25 tribulus 1G/ED

now here's where i need some help guys, for anti E's i wanna take nova, but is there anything i can stack nova with that will help with Cholestorol and Estro? should i just stay at 10MG/ED for nova or should i go to 20MG/ED?

PCT will be the 300/100/50 stack of clomid. again how much nova should i run during the PCT? 10mg/ed enough? or should i do 20mg

I'M TIRED OF BEING SKINNY

why dont you throw the prop at the begening so you can run test with the tren. youll be running tren alone because the test wont kick in for at least 4 weeks.

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Originally Posted by pietro75

why dont you throw the prop at the begening so you can run test with the tren. youll be running tren alone because the test wont kick in for at least 4 weeks.

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cause prop has a half life of about 3 days, so i can run the prop while the Test E and EQ leave my body, that way ill have good amounts of test in my body right up till the day of PCT. im running the Tren in the beginning cause for some reason my body responds to tren very very fast, last time i took it i noticed a differance by the end of the first week, but i also couldnt run it over 4 weeks cause i started to get some sides from it.

He's saying you should use the prop as a kickstart and at the end up to pct. I agree, a little prop in there would help against libido problems caused by tren. What kinds of sides did you get from tren? 4 weeks is awfully short, maybe it would be better to lower the dose to where you don't get bad sides and run it for 8-10 weeks.

thinking of:
1-6 50mg dbol ed
1-10 125mg sust eod
1-10 100mg prop eod
1-12 250mg deca 2x wk

10-26 450mg test enan 2x wk
12-24 250mg eq 2x wk