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    500mg/week Sust only cycle, Could i add Dbol week 5 ?

    Just finished week 3 of 500mg/week sust only cycle, could i add dbol week 5 for 3 weeks, what would be the results and would the gains be strength only or mass aswell ?

    Tnx

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    BTW this is my first cycle

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    i would just add them now,

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    cnt get hold of any for a week, but if i do will this help me gain mass aswell as strength ?

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    obvisouly your first go round..................d is graet for bulking....you know adding mass.................i hope you have some nolva or anti e of some kind.....you are planning on proper pct, right?

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    Its best to run at the start of cycle, but i suppose it woodnt hurt to throw it in now

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    It would be better utilized at the start of the cycle. You know these past 3 week where you haven't started growing too much yet. Well you could have been growing for 2+ weeks already. Now it will give a good boost but I'd suggest to just hold on to it until next cycle.

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    jst had 1st shot of week 4 today, should i be starting to grow sometime soon ?

    Cheers guys, think il just hold of then and let the sust run its course, doing 10 weeks Sust only hoping to keep about 12 lbs if possible.

    Been eating like a horse lots of protine only thing i havnet been taking is shakes but getting some Promass sometime this week.

    Take half a 20mg nolva a day which iv been told is sufficient from this board, i plan on getting clomid but no one i speak to even knows what it is around here !!

    (Must all very uneducated about steroids )

    Strength is really improving now, just about what ever i lift i feel like i could allways do that one more, anyone else feel like this ?
    (This is probably psycological because i think i SHOULD be able to do more)

    My mood hasnt changed either, i have a rather nasty temper when i get really wound up anyway but 99% of the time i dont let things get to me, nothing has changed in the past 3 weeks i havent even found my self being an ass with people as other steroid users sometimes report

    Tnx for feedback

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    well i have some organon sustanon250 (India) and my dbols are on their way. I'm on my second week doing:

    Weeks 1-12 sust250(organon) 1 amp--e3d
    Weeks 3-7 dbol pills(Ciba) (5mg) x 5 pills ed

    What are your opinions on the organon sust and dbol by Ciba?
    When should I see gains?
    How much should I expect?
    What and when do you recommend pct?

    My Specs:

    21 yrs old, 115 lbs. 5'0
    Last edited by TheJuiceBar; 12-20-2004 at 11:07 AM.

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    Why are you on AAS at 115lbs my ex-gf was 5'0 110lbs and skinny as a pole so don't say it's because you're short...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJuiceBar
    well i have some organon sustanon250 (India) and my dbols are on their way. I'm on my second week doing:

    Weeks 1-12 sust250(organon) 1 amp--e3d
    Weeks 3-7 dbol pills(Ciba) (5mg) x 5 pills ed

    What are your opinions on the organon sust and dbol by Ciba?
    When should I see gains?
    How much should I expect?
    What and when do you recommend pct?

    My Specs:

    21 yrs old, 115 lbs. 5'0
    You a midget wrestler? I back midget violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by needbigguns
    Just finished week 3 of 500mg/week sust only cycle, could i add dbol week 5 for 3 weeks, what would be the results and would the gains be strength only or mass aswell ?

    Tnx
    start that dbol now.

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    first of all, the average weight for 5'0 on a doctors charts is about 110lbs. and no its not considered skinny for that height, back to my original question, what are the gains I should expect to see? what are your opinions on organon sust250 from india, and dbol by Ciba? Serious replies please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJuiceBar
    first of all, the average weight for 5'0 on a doctors charts is about 110lbs. and no its not considered skinny for that height, back to my original question, what are the gains I should expect to see? what are your opinions on organon sust250 from india, and dbol by Ciba? Serious replies please.
    gains you expect should be what you put into it... I have heard good on both products. And are you a midget (small person)?

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    no, thats a ridiculous question. just short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJuiceBar
    no, thats a ridiculous question. just short.
    Maybe you should look into some growth hormone , your an excellent canidate and it would be covered by insurance, then do a cycle 3 months into your gh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsMedVIP
    It would be better utilized at the start of the cycle. You know these past 3 week where you haven't started growing too much yet. Well you could have been growing for 2+ weeks already. Now it will give a good boost but I'd suggest to just hold on to it until next cycle.
    I agree. Save it for next time, run it weeks 1-4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by needbigguns
    jst had 1st shot of week 4 today, should i be starting to grow sometime soon ?
    Yup. Next week maybe. You should be feeling some strength gains in the coming week.

    Take half a 20mg nolva a day which iv been told is sufficient from this board, i plan on getting clomid but no one i speak to even knows what it is around here !!
    Wow... you should have had your clomid on hand before taking your first shot! Better get it before the end of your cycle! Actually no need to take the nolva unless you have probs with cholesterol etc or until you notice gyno symptoms. Still it is good that you have it on hand. The key to gyno management is to hit the anti-e meds RIGHT AWAY when symptoms occur. Waiting 2-3 days while you scramble around trying to find nolva or liquidex etc can make the difference between no probs and big probs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
    Maybe you should look into some growth hormone, your an excellent canidate and it would be covered by insurance, then do a cycle 3 months into your gh.
    Thanks for your input but I'm on the board looking for tips on weight/mass gains not height. But since your so interested, gh is something useful at ages 12-18 for height, once growth plates are sealed shut there is no hope for heights gain. Back to my original post, what would be the weight gains approxiametly on organon sust250 e3d for 12 weeks and dbol 10mg x 5daily for 5 weeks? any recommendations, im trying to go from 115lbs to 130? possible?

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    bro start the dbol now... eat everything u can... 110lb.. i weighted that in like 5th grade! my gurl weights more than that

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJuiceBar
    Thanks for your input but I'm on the board looking for tips on weight/mass gains not height. But since your so interested, gh is something useful at ages 12-18 for height, once growth plates are sealed shut there is no hope for heights gain. Back to my original post, what would be the weight gains approxiametly on organon sust250 e3d for 12 weeks and dbol 10mg x 5daily for 5 weeks? any recommendations, im trying to go from 115lbs to 130? possible?
    Wow the myth of short man syndrome is seemingly not a myth. Back to your demand, I mean question, yes it is possible. Do you need a phone book to see over your stering wheel of your car? Joking

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    sounds to me that there is a lack of education in this forum. Phonebook? short man syndrome? what is that? who says **** like that? get a life. The juice has gotten to ur head. This forum is based on advice, tips, diet, training, etc. not flaming other users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJuiceBar
    sounds to me that there is a lack of education in this forum. Phonebook? short man syndrome? what is that? who says **** like that? get a life. The juice has gotten to ur head. This forum is based on advice, tips, diet, training, etc. not flaming other users.
    Like you have never heard of short mans syndrome... I said I was joking with you and did not mean to hurt your feelings. This forum is about roids and related drugs. You are OK in my book(phonebook that is lol) No flames just humor.

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    IMO
    The d-bol isn't needed for your this cycle
    You're using sus...a combination of long-and short esters.
    The point of using d-bol would've been to kickstart a long-ester cycle
    So it would've made sense using the d-bol if you were doing a test-e first cycle
    Using the d-bol weeks 1-4 while you waited for the test-e to kick in.

    IMO

    keep the d-bol for cycle two

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