Question about type of gear to use?

**moush** · 09-26-2004, 07:09 PM

What type of gear do i have to use to put on lots of mass without the water retention? I was just looking at some ronnie pics and I feel so small and weak. I am 5'9" 215 lbs but i need my strength to just go out of this world and put on some size without losing most of it during PCT.

**maxamillion** · 09-26-2004, 07:16 PM

I take it this is your first cycle? Do a little more research before posting! Anyway here's a basic bulking cyle
weeks
1-10 500mg Test Enath
1-4 30mg Dbol
Nolva 10mg ed
Start PCT 2 weeks after last Test shot

**fitnessguy** · 09-26-2004, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by maxamillion

I take it this is your first cycle? Do a little more research before posting! Anyway here's a basic bulking cyle
weeks
1-10 500mg Test Enath
1-4 30mg Dbol
Nolva 10mg ed
Start PCT 2 weeks after last Test shot

he sure does have a lot of posts. and he said with little water retention.
d-bol? wtf

not flaming but...

**fitnessguy** · 09-26-2004, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by moush

What type of gear do i have to use to put on lots of mass without the water retention? I was just looking at some ronnie pics and I feel so small and weak. I am 5'9" 215 lbs but i need my strength to just go out of this world and put on some size without losing most of it during PCT.

how about some test prop., eq, with some letro from AR-R ?(i think that's the anti-bloat) someone correct me if i'm wrong...

**MotoLifter** · 09-26-2004, 07:41 PM

i'd go w/ L-dex for your first cycle.

**maxamillion** · 09-26-2004, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by fitnessguy

he sure does have a lot of posts. and he said with little water retention.
d-bol? wtf

not flaming but...

Ya he did say little water retention, but he also said he wants to put on a lot of mass. If he runs L-dex during his cycle he shouldn't expierence much water retention if any (I didn't). You got a better cycle for a newbie. lets see it

**MotoLifter** · 09-26-2004, 07:42 PM

go w/ L-dex for your 1st cycle

**SportsMedVIP** · 09-26-2004, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by maxamillion

I take it this is your first cycle? Do a little more research before posting! Anyway here's a basic bulking cyle
weeks
1-10 500mg Test Enath
1-4 30mg Dbol
Nolva 10mg ed
Start PCT 2 weeks after last Test shot

No need to chastise him. D-bol would not be a good decision based on his goals. Not good at all in fact. Try:
Test E @500mg EW weeks 1-12
Nolva @10mg ED weeks 1-17
Clomid Therapy for PCT weeks 15-17
That's all you would need for a first cycle.

**moush** · 09-26-2004, 07:46 PM

this will be my third cycle by the way

First cycle Test E 500mg/wk
Deca 400mg/wk

Second Cycle Test E 500mg/wk
Eq 400mg/wk
ran l-dex and nolva throughout

**maxamillion** · 09-26-2004, 07:51 PM

If it's his Third cycle and he's looking to Bulk up, then why not Throw some D-bol in there to help kick start his cylcle before the Test kicks in??

**fitnessguy** · 09-26-2004, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by maxamillion

Ya he did say little water retention, but he also said he wants to put on a lot of mass. If he runs L-dex during his cycle he shouldn't expierence much water retention if any (I didn't). You got a better cycle for a newbie. lets see it

my bad i didn't see where he said it was his first. actually judging by his profile this should be his 3rd.
looks like his second was a pretty good one, what you think?

**fitnessguy** · 09-26-2004, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by maxamillion

If it's his Third cycle and he's looking to Bulk up, then why not Throw some D-bol in there to help kick start his cylcle before the Test kicks in??

d-bol put some weight on me.(water)

it's a good jump start for bulking

**anaBROLIC** · 09-26-2004, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by maxamillion

If it's his Third cycle and he's looking to Bulk up, then why not Throw some D-bol in there to help kick start his cylcle before the Test kicks in??

ya stay away from dbol .. its gonna be purely water weight.. i like the results prop gives.. nice lean muscle run that with some eq again... 100mgs/day of prop + 400 mgs of eq and a good diet you will put on size.. thats just my .02

**moush** · 09-26-2004, 09:09 PM

what do you guys think of running Test E 625 mg/wk
Eq 500mg/wk
Deca 200mg/wk

I loved the gains from Eq, but they were too slow and i had some joint pain, but if i take deca which i have used before then i will eliminate that and also get some strength and mass a little more than Eq.