Lab Quality

[ToJuice,OrNotToJuice]

Hey can you guys tell me what you think of these diferent lab companies Animal Power, Aranda, Denkall, Brovel, Tornel, Loeffer. Thanks guys, I found some awesome prices through these labs and was just wondering if they are worth it, all I am really familiar with is QV.

[needle]

Brovel Tornal and USO Ive had no problems with these companys and many friends have used these also!!!

[PiecinItUp]

I heard brovel is usually underdosed

[1badcamaro]

loeffer's liquid dbol sucked and was really underdosed. Thats the only gear out of that list that i have used.

[956Vette]

Havent heard any feedback on animal power yet. Of the others, imo denkall and qv have the better reps

[Unknown$$]

isnt QV usually underdosed also?

[ToJuice,OrNotToJuice]

Ya I have heard that it is underdosed, but everyone I kow in my area locally has gotten good gains and no probs from it

[dogsofwar]

QV is not always underdosed. A lot of this false information comes from people talking up their underground labs. QV is not an underground lab, but a established business with standards. I have gotten massive gains from QV.

[sniper320]

QV Cyp lab results - pretty **** weak

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QVT 011
Exp 01 2007

Lab test from their site says 156.87mg/ml. A quarter of advertised strength.
What the hell is that?!

Picked up more stock, ran the number, thats when i noticed.
Thats a thread from last week.

[dogsofwar]

Thats one example. If you look on the site, they post all of their lab results. My lab results were 248.x out of 250. He just got a sh*tty bottle. Happens to UG's as well. I look over a LOT of lab reports from all of the big UG's and you'd be suprised (or maybe not) at how many are underdosed.

[sniper320]

Ya but if you have a choice, why risk it?

[dogsofwar]

Ya but if you have a choice, why risk it?

Good point. However, I can drive to pick mine up over the counter. Could even bring the lab results with me and compare what I intend to buy.

[sniper320]

Good point. However, I can drive to pick mine up over the counter. Could even bring the lab results with me and compare what I intend to buy.

Sweat, how did you rig that deal?

[dogsofwar]

I live 5 hours away from Mexico. You can print the results from online. They will let you hold and look at the bottle before you purchase. Viola'!

[LightWeightBaby]

Brovel, Tornel, Loeffer, QV all these products are usually underdosed. I use to only run qv but that was when that was all i could get. That is why I only buy from underground labs that test out right or overdosed. I think i will probably be running Ultra Growth Labs for the rest of the time i juice.

[LightWeightBaby]

Thats one example. If you look on the site, they post all of their lab results. My lab results were 248.x out of 250. He just got a sh*tty bottle. Happens to UG's as well. I look over a LOT of lab reports from all of the big UG's and you'd be suprised (or maybe not) at how many are underdosed.

well i think the qualityvet site may be a little biases when it comes to telling the truth of whether there stuff is overdosed or underdosed.

[w_rballs]

qv isnt always underdosed. more times than none it is underFILLED

[dogsofwar]

Well, the bottles are marked in increments of 10ml (on the 50ml bottle). Mine was on the 50ml line. Maybe I just got a "special" bottle. UGL is one of the best UG labs out there. You will usually pay a little more for a UG, but the quality (at least in UGL's case) is top notch.

[Skinz]

I live 5 hours away from Mexico. You can print the results from online. They will let you hold and look at the bottle before you purchase. Viola'!

Yeah, thats what I do if I dont buy from an UG lab. I live 3 hrs away...print the results and compare...

[dogsofwar]

I think a lot of the concern is: 1) people are unsure because it comes from Mexico. 2) they have gotten fakes before 3) It was manufactured for animals 4) No gains (which could be due to poor diet, not enough gym time, underdosed, etc) .... The nice thing about UG's is that people do not try to copy and send fakes. Thats probably the single most important thing about it.

[dogsofwar]

Wow look at that. I just became a member.

[P Rock]

7 posts on one thread, that'l do the trick.

[P Rock]

ive tried tornel test e and despite what people say, it worked great for me. stay away from sydgroup gear, very painful and garbage.

[ToJuice,OrNotToJuice]

Thanks for all the help guys