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    RippedAndRockHard is offline New Member
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    Homemade Injectables - Safe & Pain Free?

    Homemade Injectables - Safe & Pain Free?
    Making Injectables Pathogen/Microbe Free

    It has become obvious to me that those of us who prefer injectables,
    & cutting edge (newer & superior) substances [such as 1-Test Cyp],
    are at a disadvantage. To avoid the often insurmountable expense of
    prepared pharmaceuticals, & at the same time to benefit from the
    newest and most effective substances available, we can "make our
    own" injectables. However, this has brought us face to face with a
    couple of very real threats, not only to our health & muscular
    development, but to our very lives!

    We have been balancing our desire to keep our preparations pathogen
    free [free from bacteria/microbes], & both pain free & limited in
    neurotoxicity. Typically, we use BA [Benzyl Alcohlol] & BB
    [Benzyl Benzoate] to sterilize and preserve our preparations. However,
    as most of us know, too much BA/BB causes injections to be extremely
    painful, and can traumatize the muscle into which it's injected. Furthermore,
    being a neurotoxin, the BA can result in nerve damage or even nerve death;
    if not from a single injection, certainly during a cycle consisting of multiple
    injections per week for several weeks. [It is my understanding that it is for
    these very reasons that Grandeur Labs (previously Mexi-Pharm) reduced
    the percentage of BA in their formulations to 1%. (Note: I'd really appreciate
    their addy. Email to: "RippedAndRockHard@hotmail.com" Thanks.)]

    That said, if we keep the percentage of BA/BB too low, we risk possible
    contamination and infection. Although the BA/BB and oil ["USP grade"] are
    effectively free from pathogens, the raw AS or pro-hormone that we buy is
    rarely USP grade, most often being bought in bulk, in unsealed & non-sterile
    containers. This, and the fact that we are "kitchen chemists," absent a sterile
    environment in which to make our preparations, is a considerable and very
    justified cause for great concern.

    BA/BB at percentages typically used by US based pharmaceutical companies
    [the BA on avg. seems to vary from 0.9% to 1.5%, and BB seems to avg.
    10%], the use of which have only been approved by the FDA as preservatives,
    though still sometimes painful, are easily tolerable if one is not allergic to
    BA/BB. However, the higher percentages typically used by "kitchen chemists"
    (those who make their own) can not only prove to be VERY painful, but
    can also traumatize the muscle into which it's injected. [Something to which
    I can personally attest!] Furthermore, being a neurotoxin, higher percentages
    of BA can readily cause severe nerve cell damage, and even the nerve death.

    There are many of us who "make our own," and some are chemists, pharmacists,
    lab. tech's, etc., who may be able to provide us with the benefit of their knowlege
    and experience. I am wondering whether UV, which is used in lab's to sterilize,
    could be effectively utilized in some manner (by us "kitchen chemists") to sterilize
    our preparations, while nominal (pain free & FDA approved) percentages of BA &
    BB (ie; BA @ .9% to 1.5%) are utilized strictly as preservatives?

    I am also familiar with the use and benefits of ozonation. There are small &
    inexpensive ozonators available (the size of air-pumps for fish tanks). Is it
    feasable that we could sterilized an air stone & air-tubing with some BA, put it
    directly into our preparations, and bubble through some ozone to render them
    free of pathogens/microbes, or might the ozone interact with our preparation
    thus changing the chemical structure thereof?

    I have also discovered electromedical devices that very effectively neutralize
    pathogens/microbes. One of the devices electrifies the blood via a 27v to 31v
    AC ["square-wave pulse?"], and is a proven means by which to cleanse blood
    of pathogens/microbes both in-vitro and in-vivo. Another device, called a
    Magnetic Pulse Generator, has been used effectively to cleanse infected lymph
    glands by subjecting them to a continuous series of pulses of from 24K gauss to
    48K gauss for a few minutes, from two to four times daily. The duration of this
    modality is dependant upon the pathogen for which one is being treated. In any
    case, I wonder about the possible efficacy of utilizing either or both electrification
    and/or said magnetic pulses to render our preparations pathogen/microbe free.

    Is anyone is sufficiently knowlegable with respect to using one or more of the
    above mentioned means to neutralize pathogens/microbes, and specifically
    whether they may be used for possibly rendering our own preparations safe
    without the need for BA/BB at percentages above 1.5% & 10% respectively?
    In the alternative, has anyone "successfully" been employing any other means by
    which to render their preparations pathogen/microbe free, likewise while using
    said nominal BA/BB percentages?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RippedAndRockHard
    Homemade Injectables - Safe & Pain Free?
    Making Injectables Pathogen/Microbe Free

    It has become obvious to me that those of us who prefer injectables,
    & cutting edge (newer & superior) substances [such as 1-Test Cyp],
    are at a disadvantage. To avoid the often insurmountable expense of
    prepared pharmaceuticals, & at the same time to benefit from the
    newest and most effective substances available, we can "make our
    own" injectables. However, this has brought us face to face with a
    couple of very real threats, not only to our health & muscular
    development, but to our very lives!

    We have been balancing our desire to keep our preparations pathogen
    free [free from bacteria/microbes], & both pain free & limited in
    neurotoxicity. Typically, we use BA [Benzyl Alcohlol] & BB
    [Benzyl Benzoate] to sterilize and preserve our preparations. However,
    as most of us know, too much BA/BB causes injections to be extremely
    painful, and can traumatize the muscle into which it's injected. Furthermore,
    being a neurotoxin, the BA can result in nerve damage or even nerve death;
    if not from a single injection, certainly during a cycle consisting of multiple
    injections per week for several weeks. [It is my understanding that it is for
    these very reasons that Grandeur Labs (previously Mexi-Pharm) reduced
    the percentage of BA in their formulations to 1%. (Note: I'd really appreciate
    their addy. Email to: "RippedAndRockHard@hotmail.com" Thanks.)]

    That said, if we keep the percentage of BA/BB too low, we risk possible
    contamination and infection. Although the BA/BB and oil ["USP grade"] are
    effectively free from pathogens, the raw AS or pro-hormone that we buy is
    rarely USP grade, most often being bought in bulk, in unsealed & non-sterile
    containers. This, and the fact that we are "kitchen chemists," absent a sterile
    environment in which to make our preparations, is a considerable and very
    justified cause for great concern.

    BA/BB at percentages typically used by US based pharmaceutical companies
    [the BA on avg. seems to vary from 0.9% to 1.5%, and BB seems to avg.
    10%], the use of which have only been approved by the FDA as preservatives,
    though still sometimes painful, are easily tolerable if one is not allergic to
    BA/BB. However, the higher percentages typically used by "kitchen chemists"
    (those who make their own) can not only prove to be VERY painful, but
    can also traumatize the muscle into which it's injected. [Something to which
    I can personally attest!] Furthermore, being a neurotoxin, higher percentages
    of BA can readily cause severe nerve cell damage, and even the nerve death.

    There are many of us who "make our own," and some are chemists, pharmacists,
    lab. tech's, etc., who may be able to provide us with the benefit of their knowlege
    and experience. I am wondering whether UV, which is used in lab's to sterilize,
    could be effectively utilized in some manner (by us "kitchen chemists") to sterilize
    our preparations, while nominal (pain free & FDA approved) percentages of BA &
    BB (ie; BA @ .9% to 1.5%) are utilized strictly as preservatives?

    I am also familiar with the use and benefits of ozonation. There are small &
    inexpensive ozonators available (the size of air-pumps for fish tanks). Is it
    feasable that we could sterilized an air stone & air-tubing with some BA, put it
    directly into our preparations, and bubble through some ozone to render them
    free of pathogens/microbes, or might the ozone interact with our preparation
    thus changing the chemical structure thereof?

    I have also discovered electromedical devices that very effectively neutralize
    pathogens/microbes. One of the devices electrifies the blood via a 27v to 31v
    AC ["square-wave pulse?"], and is a proven means by which to cleanse blood
    of pathogens/microbes both in-vitro and in-vivo. Another device, called a
    Magnetic Pulse Generator, has been used effectively to cleanse infected lymph
    glands by subjecting them to a continuous series of pulses of from 24K gauss to
    48K gauss for a few minutes, from two to four times daily. The duration of this
    modality is dependant upon the pathogen for which one is being treated. In any
    case, I wonder about the possible efficacy of utilizing either or both electrification
    and/or said magnetic pulses to render our preparations pathogen/microbe free.

    Is anyone is sufficiently knowlegable with respect to using one or more of the
    above mentioned means to neutralize pathogens/microbes, and specifically
    whether they may be used for possibly rendering our own preparations safe
    without the need for BA/BB at percentages above 1.5% & 10% respectively?
    In the alternative, has anyone "successfully" been employing any other means by
    which to render their preparations pathogen/microbe free, likewise while using
    said nominal BA/BB percentages?
    ask SV-1 hes been messing with low BA/high BB for a while i thing

    awesome infos right here

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    A while back someone posted a chart showing that 1%BA was effective in killing nearly all bacteria and fungus, I believe. This would be better posted in the anabolic lab forum of this board.

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    Did not know that a mere 1% BA could be anti-bacterial. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RippedAndRockHard
    Did not know that a mere 1% BA could be anti-bacterial. Thanks.
    that seems to be what the research shows

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