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    first cycle

    ive been dooing some research and come to this conclusion on a first cycle
    wk1-10 400mg of eq and test e
    wk9-11 50mg winstrol eod
    wk12-13 clomid

    is this a good idea? how much test e a week? and would clomid be fine or should i look into nolva

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnvom
    ive been dooing some research and come to this conclusion on a first cycle
    wk1-10 400mg of eq and test e
    wk9-11 50mg winstrol eod
    wk12-13 clomid

    is this a good idea? how much test e a week? and would clomid be fine or should i look into nolva
    come on bro, you can do better than that.

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    definitely not well thought out bro.....

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    stick with test only for around 10 weeks at 400-500mg. Have nolvadex , clomid, and all of your gear on hand before you start. But most importantly, do some more research. PCT should be longer than 2 weeks. Look into recent posts on frontloading and Pheendo's PCT. There's also a good post by MudMan I believe that has about 10 different beginners cycles. Good luck.

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    Run the test for 13 weeks at 500mg and the eq for 12 weeks at 500mgs. PCT following. Tons of PCT information in the "PCT" forum.

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    is the winstrol in this cycle a good or bad idea?

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    Wouldn't do winstrol for a first cycle. Can be hard on the joints which would not be good with your new strength gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnvom
    ive been dooing some research and come to this conclusion on a first cycle
    wk1-10 400mg of eq and test e
    wk9-11 50mg winstrol eod
    wk12-13 clomid

    is this a good idea? how much test e a week? and would clomid be fine or should i look into nolva
    Currently on my 1st cycle. i am doing:
    test e 500mg/wk
    Eq 400mg/wk
    Winny 50mg ed

    i would bump your test to 500mg/wk and do the winny ed as opposed to eod. by the way why dont you run the test 1 week longer than the eq so you can start pct same time. also imho you are running your winny too short. youl hardly see any gains, try doing it 5 weeks say last 5 weeks of cycle.

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    should i worry about test aromatizing while on cycle or the high estrogen levels post cycle...................what im trying to ask is should i take an anti estrogen like nolva or arimidex while on cycle or just wait to pct..........also, does taking a anti-e reduce gains during cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnvom
    should i worry about test aromatizing while on cycle or the high estrogen levels post cycle...................what im trying to ask is should i take an anti estrogen like nolva or arimidex while on cycle or just wait to pct..........also, does taking a anti-e reduce gains during cycle?

    it would be wise to take nolva/arimidex while on cycle to help combat bloat and for gyno prevention. better safe than sorry bro.

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    would you suggest arimidex over nolva or both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnvom
    would you suggest arimidex over nolva or both?
    you need both.

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    confused?

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    dont know how my post ended up here, sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by mithical
    confused?
    nolva for gyno and arimidex for water retention.

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    at what dosages?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnvom
    at what dosages?
    nolva 10mgs/ arimidex .25mg ed

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    thanks

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