Thread: Newbie Frontloading EQ Safe ??
10-10-2004, 07:31 PM #1
Newbie Frontloading EQ Safe ??
For a newbie's 1st cycle, would it be safe to frontload QV EQ at 800mg for the first week and then continue at 400mg for the remaining 11 weeks ??
10-10-2004, 07:34 PM #2
if this is your first cycle eq will hit your emotions (hormones) pretty hard and you better just pick a steady dose and keep it constant all the way through your cycle.
Plus you need to take testosterone with eq because it shuts down your hpta. I'm sure others will elaborate.
10-10-2004, 07:35 PM #3
Its not gonna KILL you or anything but not a good idea nonetheless. My firm opinion.
10-10-2004, 07:39 PM #4
Thanks, I will be running test e along with the eq , i have been getting a lot of advise to frontload the eq though. You dont think its safe to frontload for the first week ??
10-10-2004, 07:42 PM #5
I guess its safe but why make your head spin like that? Really don't think its beneficial either. I would rather save my eq and just run it longer. You are gonna run it at least 12 weeks right?
I felt that at 10 weeks I was just finally there where I was really gaining so I extended to 16 weeks. I would recommend that.
10-10-2004, 07:44 PM #6
forget the frontload and go 12 weeks instead of 11. also dont plan on getting what you should out of those bottles they tend to be a ml short sometimes
10-10-2004, 07:45 PM #7
here's what i am thinking now then....
test e @ 300mg per weeks 1-13
eq @ 400mg per week 1-12
hows this look......I want to keep it simple, safe, and easy !
10-10-2004, 07:46 PM #8
Yep, bro I checked the web site and all four of my bottles are underdosed.
I will plan accordingly though
10-10-2004, 07:48 PM #9
10-10-2004, 07:48 PM #10
Hey bro, I have enough gear to run it longer, but its my 1st cycle,
do you think it would be safe, while running at a low dose to extend this to maybe 14-15 weeks ???
10-10-2004, 07:49 PM #11
i did........ after 10 weeks i had only gained 9 1/2 pounds at 16 weeks i was up 18 pounds
10-10-2004, 07:50 PM #12
same cycle as I posted
10-10-2004, 08:03 PM #13AnabolicAlien Guest
my 2 cents...
i've seen studies showing that in the end, total dose for total dose over the entire cycle that frontloading will not give you more gains. you may start to see gains sooner, but you risk sides especially not knowing exactly how much you should frontload.
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10-10-2004, 08:55 PM #16
thanks guys....some really good info....
What do you think about this then.....
eq 400mg weeks 1-13
test e 400mg weeks 1-12
nolva 10mg ed
I want to keep test low for first time....Do you think I will need hcg , this is a long cycle and I might be shut down hard ??
Last edited by Hugh-Hefner's-Son; 10-10-2004 at 09:29 PM.
10-10-2004, 09:29 PM #17
10-12-2004, 01:27 PM #18Originally Posted by Hugh-Hefner's-Son
test e 500mg weeks 1-12
nolva 10mg ed
.25mg adex ed or eod (gotta research more and decide)
i'm 5'9", 175 @10%BF and trying to bulk.
Last edited by wired-up; 10-12-2004 at 01:45 PM.
10-12-2004, 01:32 PM #19
he will be fine adding EQ, if he wants to run it, let em run it.
10-12-2004, 06:03 PM #20
glad i checked back on this thread. You want the test to run higher than the eq , heff , and you want it to run 1 week longer than the eq.
- you wont need hcg and its not really that long of a cycle , you will need clomid though.
- as your fears mount about the wicked testosterone remember that ALL steroids are artificial derivitives of testosterone. Test just more closely resembles real testosterone and is therefore highly androgenic . To simplify , if you can't handle test than you cant handle steroids.
that is why members encourage people to try test first , to see how your body reacts to a artificial testosterone.
- next point. - Everyone is different.- in my case I would not have been satisfied with the eq if not for the test i took with it.
10-12-2004, 07:47 PM #21
You guys are the best....good advise !
Here's my final plan then. Please make sure its solid !
EQ weeks 1-12 400mg
Test E weeks 1-13 400mg
nolva 10mg ED
Proper PCT with Nolva + Clomid
Multi Vitiamin ED
I have extra gear for both the test and eq in case I want to exstend it later in cycle.
10-12-2004, 07:53 PM #22
looks good, but i'd bump the test to 500
10-12-2004, 07:59 PM #23
I hear you bro, thats what many say , but this is gonna be a cutting cycle and I dont want too much bloat and I have no clue how my body is gonna react to the test. I fell There's no need for 500mg of test. I can grow decently off 400mg.....????
10-12-2004, 08:11 PM #24
If it's your first cycle, there's no need to Frontload period. You'll gain enough when your gear kicks in, it's not worth wasting your time or money.
10-12-2004, 08:12 PM #25
10-13-2004, 10:13 PM #26
if you are lean eat lean and always were lean , theres no way test is gonna bloat you up. I did your cycle with nolva and never once felt bloated.
Bump the test 100mg higher for best results.
test is the greatest
I'm huge into martial arts - I want to be lean , started a cycle at 174 lean pounds , thanks to test and his 2nd cousins eq and nandrolone I am 201 lean and very much stronger
10-13-2004, 10:27 PM #27Originally Posted by shadowman25
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