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    Talking Check out my next cycle, Please Critique

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    1-4 Test Prop/50mg/day

    1-12 Deca /375mg/Week

    1-13 Test E./500mg/Week

    10-15 Winstrol /50mg/Day

    1-19 Nolvadex /10mg/day

    16-19 Clomid Therapy


    Any imput is neccessary if you see changes let me know, thanks
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    How many cycles have you done before because that is some pretty high doses of deca and test? I would run the nolva at 10mg ED throughout the cycle unless your prone to gyno, if you are, you can bump it up to 20mg ED and keep it at 20mg for your PCT. Also, you might want to think about adding some l-dex or a-dex because that will stop almost any estrogen conversion to begin with, since you are using such a high amount of test. Also, you need to run the winstrol longer than 4 weeks to get the full effect IMO, I would run it for 6 weeks. Good luck bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GetPumped
    How many cycles have you done before because that is some pretty high doses of deca and test? I would run the nolva at 10mg ED throughout the cycle unless your prone to gyno, if you are, you can bump it up to 20mg ED and keep it at 20mg for your PCT. Also, you might want to think about adding some l-dex or a-dex because that will stop almost any estrogen conversion to begin with, since you are using such a high amount of test. Also, you need to run the winstrol longer than 4 weeks to get the full effect IMO, I would run it for 6 weeks. Good luck bro.

    This is gonna be my 4th cycle, i finished my last 12 week cycle of Deca /400mg/week and Test E/ 500mg/week with PCT, plan on starting this one Jan/05. should a slow it down to only 500mg/week instead of 750mg/week???

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    change er up, lowed to 500mgs of Test E/week and only 10mg/day of nolvadex

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    looks great to me, good luck and have fun

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    ?????

    What is l-dex or a-dex??????????

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    More juice doesn't always mean more gains. I wouldn't recommend going over 400mg/wk of deca because of the sides, but thats just MO. Since you are running the test enan with the deca, I would say that 500mg/wk of test enan would yield great results along with the deca at 400mg/wk. That is 900mg/wk of steroids , a pretty good amount IMO. If you were running the test alone then I would bump it up to 750mg/wk.

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    Liquidex and arimidex (they are the same thing), they are both anti e's that are used to inhibit the aromotase enzyme, this causes almost no testosterone conversion to estrogen thus elminating almost all estrogen produced in the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GetPumped
    More juice doesn't always mean more gains. I wouldn't recommend going over 400mg/wk of deca because of the sides, but thats just MO. Since you are running the test enan with the deca, I would say that 500mg/wk of test enan would yield great results along with the deca at 400mg/wk. That is 900mg/wk of steroids, a pretty good amount IMO. If you were running the test alone then I would bump it up to 750mg/wk.


    alright sounds good, ill bump it down to 375mg a week of deca , I got deca 250mg/ml so I figure ill go less with 375a week, go 3/4 cc shots on monday thursdays give me 187mg of deca a shot. Hows that sound???

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    That sounds good to me. You won't be disappointed, deca and test work VERY well together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GetPumped
    That sounds good to me. You won't be disappointed, deca and test work VERY well together.

    alright sounds good, thanks alot bro, much needed help, i was way off with those high dosages, and im gonna see if i can can find some liquidex or arimidex . Thanks again.

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    taking test p 100mg ed for the 1st 4 weeks with 500mg of test enanth that means 1200mgs of test a week and 400 of deca = 1600mgs and i think its to much, lower the test p to 100mg eod or 50mg ed.

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    Yah, I forgot about that, lower the test prop for weeks 1-4 to 50mg ED

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magicz
    taking test p 100mg ed for the 1st 4 weeks with 500mg of test enanth that means 1200mgs of test a week and 400 of deca= 1600mgs and i think its to much, lower the test p to 100mg eod or 50mg ed.

    Good point, gonna make a few adujsmenst what u think now

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    Clomid Therapy





    Day 1 Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5 Day 6 Day 7
    Week 1 300 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg
    Week 2 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg
    Week 3 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg
    Week 4 100 mg 1 00 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg


    How do my dosages look for my PCT for weeks 16-19?

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    Just do it like this for clomid,

    day 1 300mg
    next ten days 100mg ED
    next ten days 50mg ED

    That is the norm for PCT.

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    i would run the prop at least 75mgs/day. ya you will be running the test E 500mgs/week but the prop is just to kickstart pluss you wont get the effects of the test E until your 4th or 5th week in anyways.. and im not sure how the winstrol works for pct because i never tried it but do you think you will shut down hard since you will be starting the clomid a week later then recommended for both deca and test E?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phatmark
    i would run the prop at least 75mgs/day. ya you will be running the test E 500mgs/week but the prop is just to kickstart pluss you wont get the effects of the test E until your 4th or 5th week in anyways.. and im not sure how the winstrol works for pct because i never tried it but do you think you will shut down hard since you will be starting the clomid a week later then recommended for both deca and test E?

    So should i just screw the Winstrol and start PCT 21 days after my last test shot??

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaffry20
    So should i just screw the Winstrol and start PCT 21 days after my last test shot??
    techinacally pcct would be 14 days after enanth. but what you could do would be to take prop in that 2 week gap and then start pct 3 days after last prop shot(time it so that day is the same day as the enanth pct start date)

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicstick2003
    techinacally pcct would be 14 days after enanth. but what you could do would be to take prop in that 2 week gap and then start pct 3 days after last prop shot(time it so that day is the same day as the enanth pct start date)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaffry20
    bump
    not sure if you bumped it cause of what i wrote but enanth is 2 weeks and cyp is 3 weeks... i was just clearing that up for ya...

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicstick2003
    not sure if you bumped it cause of what i wrote but enanth is 2 weeks and cyp is 3 weeks... i was just clearing that up for ya...

    alrighty, thanks that's what i was wondering about.

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