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im a reciever in football and i was checking out EQ and winstrol to take in the off season. i want to keep it simple for my first time and i was wondering if i can just take one thing instead of a stack. my main goal is to get faster but i wouldnt mind putting on a couple more pounds and gettin cut. any comments/suggestions would be great
Testosterone for your first cycle will be all you need. See how you react to that first then cycle other things in.
Ive heard this Equipoise and Winstrol stack many times. For the most part most people dont like it. They lose their aggression. And that means down time in the Gym. I have personally witnessed a freind taking the exact same stack mope around the gym saying he just cant get into it. Week after week I kept telling him he needed more androgens. But he wouldnt listen. I even suggested using more Stanzolol to help increase his androgenic effect but of course some website on the internet had that as a cycle so he was gonna do it.
I agree, go with some Test-E bro you will be happy and so will the girls...!!
I would suggest Test only for your first cycle. Add some dbol tabs at the beginning or Winstrol tabs at the end if ya want.
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Test E at 500mg a week is all you need (plus PCT, but that should be a given). I find the sex drive is 10 times better than the muscle increase. I would stay on for the rest of my life if I could just for the sex drive. I'm gonna try Cialis when I go into PCT to see if I can maintain some of the drive. (going off on a tangent.....)
Good luck!
Test and winny would work bro. Being your an athlete looking for some help with speed I think this will help. Make sure you work your legs hard. Plyometrics, heavy squats, and **** like that.
is there any way that i can use just one or the other, i've heard that 1st time users should stay away from tests and stick to milder stuff until they are more experienced
No 500mgs Testosterone( your choice) every week is pretty standard for a first cycle. There isnt very many things that can be taken by themselves and Equipoise is not one of them. ANd I would consider winstrol a steroid only advanced users should use.
use prop, i noticed ur a football player so u will prob have to worry about testing. prop is out of u in 2 weeks. i went with prop and loved it.
Yeah I agree with JDog, Run 8 to 10 weeks of prop 100mg ED or 150mg EOD and I think you'll really enjoy the results you get.
how much weight gain is expected from just taking a test like prop
Yeah... thats the way to go my man. Lean mean and waterless. It will be able to keep you agile and movin. What team if you don't mind bro? ;)
what kind of PCT would i use then. and sorry dogsofwar, i gotta keep my team on the down low
During the cycle, use ldex at .25mgs per day. Use nolva at 10mgs per day.
When you come to "real pct", then you hit clomid at 300mgs ed, then 150mgs ed, and 100mg
Beginning on the 4th day, use clomid at 50mgs per day throughout the rest of recovery. Keep the ldex and novla at the same doses throughout. NIghty night.
thanks for the info
i would go with just a simple test ena. for ur first thats what i did on off season i play football to and it was a great first cycle for me i just did a low dosage of test ena. 250mgs for 10weeks and sall good results u might wanna go with 500mgs of test ena. now when i look back thats what i wish i would of done but for sure ull see good results if u work hard and train right just be sure to get some nolva and focus on ur pct to.... good luck bro