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    gonnagetBIG is offline Junior Member
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    Thoughts on this cycle

    This is mainly a bulking cycle, but with four weeks of winstrol on the end to cut up just a bit. Tell me what you think, like, dislike?

    Wks1-10 Test Enanthate or Cypionate 600mg/week
    wks1-8 Deca -durabolin 400mg/week
    wks1-4 D-bol tabs 40mg ED
    wks6-10 Winstrol Tabs/or Liquid 50mg ED

    **And of course, proper pct and nolva/B6 all the way through.

    Suggestions on changes are welcome. Thanks. Also, should I frontload anything??

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    Thats alot of 17-aa compounds, i would move the winstrol to when the enthate is still active but not being injected, the interim between last injection and pct while running milk thistle or nac throughout the whole cycle.

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    Well 4 weeks isn't enough for winstrol . It should be ran for 6. Also, run the Deca 9 weeks.

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    why not:
    1-4 prop
    1-10 test
    1-9 deca
    7/8-12 winny

    ?
    Last edited by fabry; 10-14-2004 at 04:25 PM.

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    Prop in place of dbol is definately a better choice IMO.

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    I think 10 weeks is minimum for deca , try 11 weeks of test 10 weeks of deca. Deca takes 3 weeks toi clear the system where enan takes 2

    JohnnyB

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    Well I know time on = time off with 17aa's And I only have a 2wk off period between the compunds but I figure with lots of water and milk thistle I will be ok, especially since I won't be cycling on again for a while after this one. I really don't like the idea of ED injects which is why I don't want to go with prop. So that being said, how does this look?

    Wks1-10 Test enathate or Cypionate @ 600mg/wk
    Wks1-9 Deca -durabolin @ 400mg/wk
    Wks1-4 D-Bol tabs @ 40mg ED
    Wks6-12 Winstrol Oral @ 50mg ED

    **have any of you ever used 2 17aa's in a cycle, I know its not the best thing to do, but I know many people have done it with good results? Reason I don't want to inject as little as possible is cause I've got so many little scars already. Thanks guys for the quick responses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonna******
    Well I know time on = time off with 17aa's And I only have a 2wk off period between the compunds but I figure with lots of water and milk thistle I will be ok, especially since I won't be cycling on again for a while after this one. I really don't like the idea of ED injects which is why I don't want to go with prop. So that being said, how does this look?

    Wks1-10 Test enathate or Cypionate @ 600mg/wk
    Wks1-9 Deca -durabolin @ 400mg/wk
    Wks1-4 D-Bol tabs @ 40mg ED
    Wks6-12 Winstrol Oral @ 50mg ED

    **have any of you ever used 2 17aa's in a cycle, I know its not the best thing to do, but I know many people have done it with good results? Reason I don't want to inject as little as possible is cause I've got so many little scars already. Thanks guys for the quick responses.
    JohnnyB, I just saw your post so let me revise:

    Wks1-11 Test enathate or Cypionate @ 600mg/wk
    Wks1-10 Deca-durabolin @ 400mg/wk
    Wks1-4 D-Bol tabs @ 40mg ED
    Wks7-13 Winstrol Oral @ 50mg ED

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    I have used two methyl's at once... It's not too bad, as long as they both are lower dosed and your taking nac and milk thistle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    I have used two methyl's at once... It's not too bad, as long as they both are lower dosed and your taking nac and milk thistle.
    Do my doses look OK, Also what is nac?

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    and ala... and LOTS of water...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabry
    and ala... and LOTS of water...
    Definately, I practically carry a bottle of water with me evrywhere I go, gallon jug at the gym. LOL

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    I don't like 2 17aa's in the same cycle especially d-bol and winny

    JohnnyB

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyB
    I don't like 2 17aa's in the same cycle especially d-bol and winny

    JohnnyB
    What should I use in place of the winny?

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    Prop would be a nice substitute IMO, more mass and a little less cutting, but i'll take that exchange any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    Prop would be a nice substitute IMO, more mass and a little less cutting, but i'll take that exchange any day.
    How would you run the prop in this cycle??

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