New Cycle...Check it PLZ!

**k_dogg** · 10-15-2004, 05:24 AM

hey bro's

Test enan 500mg wk 1-12
andriol 280mg ed wk1-4
stanazol/winny 50mg eod wk1-6
milk thistle for my poor little liver being eaten by andriol and stanaz inj
nolva 10mg ed
chlomid pct

now i was gonna run the stanaz at the end but i thought id go with the beggining because of the less likelyhood of me being tested posotive if its at the beggining. i go back to work at the end of the cycle and i may be targetted for roid test. and they always look for stanaz.
i can not get dbol . plus ive heard andriol's gains are better maintained???
what do you think?

**youknowme** · 10-15-2004, 05:28 AM

I'd frontload with prop if I were you and I'd run the winny the 6 last weeks of the cycle not the 6 first. It's true that andriol gains are better maintained then dbol but for a frontload I'd choose dbol over andriol any day. If I don't have prop that is...

**k_dogg** · 10-15-2004, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by youknowme

I'd frontload with prop if I were you and I'd run the winny the 6 last weeks of the cycle not the 6 first. It's true that andriol gains are better maintained then dbol but for a frontload I'd choose dbol over andriol any day. If I don't have prop that is...

hmm ok. im very concerned with maintaining my mass so i may go with the andriol . im not to concerned with blowing out immediately. just frontloading to get some gains from the start. i realy dont have a choice anyway unfortunately. i was actually thinking of taking prop instead of the enan but that would be a major injection commitment wich i may not be able to stick to due to work and travel etc.
unfortunately i have to run the stanaz at the start due to the probability of being targeted for testing.
i do undertsnd its better to use at end to harden.

oh by the way my goals are to gain and keep mass. thats it.

**fabry** · 10-15-2004, 06:02 AM

winny end of cycle 9-14

**k_dogg** · 10-15-2004, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by fabry

winny end of cycle 9-14

ok people please pay attention when i say this for the 3rd time....

winny end of cycle = me losing the job i love....
winny at start of cycle = me keeping the job i love

i understand that it will not harden my gains from the test. though i am going to use it to build some lean muscle at the start of the course....

if in doubt please refer to the 2nd and third line of this post.

**fitnessguy** · 10-15-2004, 07:16 AM

run the winni 50mg ED for better gains.
if your getting a roid test, then won't elevated test levels show from the enanthate ?

**k_dogg** · 10-15-2004, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by fitnessguy

run the winni 50mg ED for better gains.
if your getting a roid test, then won't elevated test levels show from the enanthate?

you would think so. but i believe acceptable test levels are rather high. 2 friends of mine got tested at different times while on sustanon at 500mg a wk and niether got pulled up for test. when one of them was told that his test levels were fine he even said "Fine!...im on ****ing sustanon". the doc just said nah your levels are acceptable. it seems that everyone who gets done at work is for deca or stanazol. the 2 most common i guess

and yeah good point about the 50mg ed. i think i might do that.