Thread: do any of you guys take ALA
10-18-2004, 05:44 PM #1
do any of you guys take ALA
I heard from some poeple on this board that they take it......How many mg per day and where can you buy it at cost?
10-18-2004, 06:47 PM #2
Its in flax seed oil. Its an Essential Fatty Acid. Can be found in fish.
10-18-2004, 07:03 PM #3Originally Posted by Demon Deacon
So if I eat a can a tuna a day (5serving size can) am i getting any of this?
10-18-2004, 07:09 PM #4
i dont think tuna has it.
10-19-2004, 12:42 AM #5
ALA (Alpha Lipoic Acid) Is NOT in flax seed oil,is NOT a fatty acid and,is NOT found in fish...ALA is an antioxidant, it is a disulfide molecule that contains two thiol groups (sulfur and hydrogen). It is incredibly effective in its ability to help increase the sensitivity of insulin receptors, if your are diabetic .No studies clearly show that ALA would improve glucose metabolism in healthy subjects..Now Demon you may have misread and thought of (CLA conjugated linoleic acid) Which IS a fatty acid fatty acid derived from safflower oil but is found in red meat and cheese, NOT fish..YOU SHOULD NOT GIVE ADVICE IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT, IMO...... Now brew if you you decide to give it a try start with 50-100 mg a day.. Give it a shot you have nothing to lose. Check vitaminworld.com for a price.
10-19-2004, 01:09 AM #6
Jock you know for sure that there is no evidence that ALA increases insulin sensitivity in non-diabetic persons.
Here is what I was telling this guy. When ever he takes his supplements creatine, L-glutamine, Protein that he should pop about 200mgs of ALA and take carbs as well with creatine and such. This has made people that I have trained, gain weight when their gains have stoped. This works well for some reason. And for $3 a bottle it cant hurt.
10-19-2004, 02:09 AM #7
heard that ALA is effective for liver protection.. IS this right?? like milk thistle
10-19-2004, 08:47 AM #8Originally Posted by Jock191
NOW WHAT WERE YOU SAYING?
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10-19-2004, 09:21 AM #9Originally Posted by Demon Deacon
Flax Seed Oil is a blue flowering plant that is grown on the Western Canadian Prairies for its oil rich seeds. This natural oil (also known as Linseed Oil) is highly recommended for the general well being and whole body nutrition and is considered to be nature's richest source of omega-3 fatty acids that are required for the health of almost all body systems.
Flax Seed Oil contains omega-6 and omega-9 essential fatty acids, B vitamins, potassium, lecithin, magnesium, fiber, protein, and zinc and also provides approximately 50% more omega-3 oils than what you could get from taking fish oil.
Alpha-linolenic acid is an essential fatty acid and the major omega-3 fatty acid found in food. You are right there BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ALHPA LIPOIC ACID. The key word here is LIPOIC Not LINOLENIC.. Thats what I was saying...You really need to pay more attention B4 you just spit stuff out bro. Oh and no tuna doesnt have Alpha-linolenic acid
Last edited by Jock191; 10-19-2004 at 09:28 AM.
10-19-2004, 09:35 AM #10Originally Posted by Anhydro78
Ala will Protect the liver in cases of hepatitis and other types of liver disease. As an antioxidant, alpha-lipoic acid shields the liver from potentially harmful cell changes and assists it in flushing toxins from the body. This makes it useful in treating such liver disorders as chronic hepatitis and cirrhosis. Alpha-lipoic acid supplements have also proved effective in minimizing liver toxicity following exposure to poisons such as heavy metals (including lead) and toxic industrial chemicals such as carbon tetrachloride...
So to answer your questions about it helping the liver like Milk thistle. Yes it will but no it wont. ALA helps better with diseases and such while Milk thistle is just an over all protectant.
Last edited by Jock191; 10-19-2004 at 09:52 AM.
10-19-2004, 09:45 AM #11Anabolic Member
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I use around 200mg ed or eod. Great as a anti-oxidant some say better than vitamin A ,C & E. Some studies indicate you should not take it if a diabetic due to the enhanced insulin sensitivity. IMO is a good supp along with selenuim too.
10-19-2004, 09:53 AM #12
anyone know if it is beneficial to take during an HGH Cycle?
10-19-2004, 10:54 AM #13Originally Posted by Jock191
10-19-2004, 11:25 AM #14
10-19-2004, 11:32 AM #15
10-19-2004, 11:36 AM #16Originally Posted by Demon Deacon
I wasnt assuming that he ment Lipoic, I knew he ment Lipoic b/c of his comment "I heard somthing like it helps to spike insulen before workouts, and helps with the obsorbtions of creatine......" After reading this is when I commented.
10-19-2004, 11:37 AM #17Originally Posted by Jock191
10-19-2004, 11:45 AM #18
where can I get this $3 bottle, how many mg's are the caps? and your thinking I should take 1g a day?
10-19-2004, 11:47 AM #19
Allsportsnutrition.com has some cheap prices on their supps. I dont know how much the Ala or the R-Ala is but i would check there.
10-19-2004, 12:04 PM #20
1G a day is WAYYYYYY TO MUCH number 1.. like I said b4 50-100 MG is what you should take.. Now 1 G is 1000 MG thats about 10-20 times what I told you to take.Very bad idea. unless you wanna lower your blood sugar levels.
10-19-2004, 01:57 PM #21Originally Posted by Jock191Originally Posted by Anhydro78
ok, so after reading ur post up there, you suggest 50mg everytime i take creatine(before/after workouts)
BTW, I dunno if it matters, but I only take in 50g of sugar daily.....
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10-19-2004, 02:01 PM #22Member
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10-19-2004, 03:18 PM #23
Jock and demon decon you both where very helpfull, provided information, and was both right.
Im using about a gram a day of ALA but Im also only taking it with 50g+ carbs. Besides when I take it with my protein shakes. I probally dont hit the whole 1,000 mg mark most days but im taking at least 3 times a day. I use this stuff alot.
10-19-2004, 04:31 PM #24Originally Posted by Anhydro78
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