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    3rd cycle - please give me your feedback

    Hi,
    I'm about to do my third cycle and would like your comments. My stats:
    32 years old
    5'7"
    150lbs (I think 15% body fat - gained fat from 2nd cycle)

    Second cycle was test enanthate 250mg and deca 250mg for 10 weeks. I gained about 25 lbs on second cycle, gained some fat also. Will try to lose some fat before next cycle.

    For my third cycle, here's what I'm planning - My goal is to gain size (and strength):
    Test enant 250mg, weeks 1-12
    Deca 250 mg, weeks 1-11
    Winny 50mg, weeks 1-4
    Winny 50mg, weeks 8-12
    Will run either arimidex or Femara throughout cycle
    Post cycle therapy with clomid

    Is the deca/test dosage too low for a 3rd cycle? I want to keep dosages low. Some people suggest 500mg of test and 400mg of deca. Do you really need to up the dosage that much just because you're going from your 2nd cycle to a 3rd cycle? Please recommend a cycle or changes to my current cycle. Thanks in advance Bros!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunjuan
    Hi,
    I'm about to do my third cycle and would like your comments. My stats:
    32 years old
    5'7"
    150lbs (I think 15% body fat - gained fat from 2nd cycle)

    Second cycle was test enanthate 250mg and deca 250mg for 10 weeks. I gained about 25 lbs on second cycle, gained some fat also. Will try to lose some fat before next cycle.

    For my third cycle, here's what I'm planning - My goal is to gain size (and strength):
    Test enant 250mg, weeks 1-12
    Deca 250 mg, weeks 1-11
    Winny 50mg, weeks 1-4
    Winny 50mg, weeks 8-12
    Will run either arimidex or Femara throughout cycle
    Post cycle therapy with clomid

    Is the deca/test dosage too low for a 3rd cycle? I want to keep dosages low. Some people suggest 500mg of test and 400mg of deca. Do you really need to up the dosage that much just because you're going from your 2nd cycle to a 3rd cycle? Please recommend a cycle or changes to my current cycle. Thanks in advance Bros!




    Id up the Test to 500mg/week

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunjuan
    Hi,
    I'm about to do my third cycle and would like your comments. My stats:
    32 years old
    5'7"
    150lbs (I think 15% body fat - gained fat from 2nd cycle)

    Second cycle was test enanthate 250mg and deca 250mg for 10 weeks. I gained about 25 lbs on second cycle, gained some fat also. Will try to lose some fat before next cycle.

    For my third cycle, here's what I'm planning - My goal is to gain size (and strength):
    Test enant 250mg, weeks 1-12
    Deca 250 mg, weeks 1-11
    Winny 50mg, weeks 1-4
    Winny 50mg, weeks 8-12
    Will run either arimidex or Femara throughout cycle
    Post cycle therapy with clomid

    Is the deca/test dosage too low for a 3rd cycle? I want to keep dosages low. Some people suggest 500mg of test and 400mg of deca. Do you really need to up the dosage that much just because you're going from your 2nd cycle to a 3rd cycle? Please recommend a cycle or changes to my current cycle. Thanks in advance Bros!

    1. u want to have your test dose higher than other compounds.
    2. deca at 250mg/week will do nothing really for size. when people use it at that dose its usually for helping out the joints.
    3. drop the winny 1-4
    4. use femara @ 1.25mg/EOD
    5. get some b-6 @ 200mg/ed for the prolactin/progesteone gyno caused by deca.

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    first off i would get your diet in check actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w_rballs
    1. u want to have your test dose higher than other compounds.


    4. use femara @ 1.25mg/EOD
    5. get some b-6 @ 200mg/ed for the prolactin/progesteone gyno caused by deca.
    2. deca at 250mg/week will do nothing really for size. when people use it at that dose its usually for helping out the joints.

    It worked fine for my second cycle at 250mg of deca (as well as 250mg of test) - does it really make that big of a difference going from your 2nd to 3rd cycle - that you have to almost double the amount of dosage?

    3. drop the winny 1-4

    Why? Should I add Anadrol ? I want a kick start. I tried dbol twice and both times it didn't do **** for me.

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    bro....dont take this the wrong way but you need to learn to eat...

    150lbs 15%bf and done 2 cycles????....thats not very good...

    i wouldnt advise you cycleing till you learn how to eat big and move some heavy weight first...cause your stats dont show to me that you know how...

    like i said, not flaming you...just tellin it to ya straight

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    Quote Originally Posted by w_rballs
    first off i would get your diet in check actually.
    i concur! hahhaaa, seriously at 150lbs at 5'7" you need to eat like a ****ing mad man. i am 5'7" and weigh about 220lbs. go natural buddy..

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    Quote Originally Posted by hung-solo
    i concur! hahhaaa


    too funny bro.

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    personally, i would up the test to 500mg and the deca to 300mg and drop the winny weeks 1-4(winny is not the best jump starter)
    if you had good gains from 250mg of deca, i don't see the reason to go much higher. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by hung-solo
    i concur! hahhaaa, seriously at 150lbs at 5'7" you need to eat like a ****ing mad man. i am 5'7" and weigh about 220lbs. go natural buddy..
    yeah i didn't catch that one.
    diet is def. more important

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    EAT, EAT, EAT. Now, I'm curious to know why you would kick start your cycle with Winstrol ? Winny need to be run for 6 weeks and should be run at the end of a cycle. You should never have to up your doses just because your doing another cycle. If you get great gains with low doses, keep it up. Just make sure with a low dose cycle, your diet has to be perfect or the gains will not come.....

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    just for the record i jumped my summer cutter with winny and loved it...ran it weeks 1-8 then weeks 16-25

    had no problems what so ever except lots of veins, and cuts with good strength gains...

    so i wouldnt say it cant be used...but i wouldnt use it with test and deca

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    Thanks to all the bros who responded. I also CONCUR with your statements about diet. So I'm assumming that I need to eat more - quality calories. I'll get that in check. Could you give me more comments about the cycle itself? Thanks.
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