is this ok for a 4th cycle?

I have been training for 4 years i recently had a accident breaking my arm and I have lost 25lbs in weight.


I intent to do this cycle

Weeks 1-6 Enanthate @ 500mg per week
Weeks 6-12 Prop @ 100mg EOD
Weeks 1-6 Anavar @ 50mg per day
Weeks 6-12 Winstrol @ 50mg per day
GH 4iu per day
arimidex/clomid/tamoxifen on hand


My last cycle was 750mg sustanon per week along with anavar/winstrol. This is my first raw test cycle and I dont want to get roid rage or anything , not that i have suffered it before. Is this too much or ok?

Many thanks

use the prop to kickstart the test-e

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Originally Posted by 4d4m

I have been training for 4 years i recently had a accident breaking my arm and I have lost 25lbs in weight.


I intent to do this cycle

Weeks 1-6 Enanthate @ 500mg per week
Weeks 6-12 Prop @ 100mg EOD
Weeks 1-6 Anavar @ 50mg per day
Weeks 6-12 Winstrol @ 50mg per day
GH 4iu per day
arimidex/clomid/tamoxifen on hand


My last cycle was 750mg sustanon per week along with anavar/winstrol. This is my first raw test cycle and I dont want to get roid rage or anything , not that i have suffered it before. Is this too much or ok?

Many thanks

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imo save the ehtanate for a bulker and run the prop the entire cycle and start pct 3 days after the last prop shot

Thanks for yor info. I will be happy with a 5/6 kilo gain in weight after the water leaves , will the prop alone do that?

I can easily swap the eth for cyp would that be better?

i dont like your cycle so much (also, enanth or cyp will be the same)
1-12 Prop @ 150mg EOD
or
1-10 test enant or cyp 500mg wk
7-12 Winstrol @ 50mg per day
GH 4iu per day
arimidex/clomid/tamoxifen on hand

i heard anavar should be take for at least 8 wks.. why dont u add some eq (1-12)?

Thanks for your advice fabri i like the sound of the 1-12 Prop @ 150mg EOD could i ask you how many ML i need to do that (sorry to be dumb). I have British dragon prop. Also how much EQ would you recommend. Many thanks

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Originally Posted by 4d4m

Thanks for your advice fabri i like the sound of the 1-12 Prop @ 150mg EOD could i ask you how many ML i need to do that (sorry to be dumb). I have British dragon prop. Also how much EQ would you recommend. Many thanks

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most prop=100mg/ml so you need 1.5ml
run the eq at 400mg/week minimum and eq ususally 200mg/ml so 2ml/week

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Originally Posted by 4d4m

Thanks for your advice fabri i like the sound of the 1-12 Prop @ 150mg EOD could i ask you how many ML i need to do that (sorry to be dumb). I have British dragon prop. Also how much EQ would you recommend. Many thanks

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bd prop is 100mg x ml so, like asymmetrical1 said, 1.5ml.
bd eq is 200mg per ml and "standard" dosage is 400mg per wk (split into 2 shots).

if u want to run prop, eq and winny, do this:
1-15 prop
1-12 eq
10/11-15 winny

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Originally Posted by 4d4m

I have been training for 4 years i recently had a accident breaking my arm and I have lost 25lbs in weight.


I intent to do this cycle

Weeks 1-6 Enanthate @ 500mg per week
Weeks 6-12 Prop @ 100mg EOD
Weeks 1-6 Anavar @ 50mg per day
Weeks 6-12 Winstrol @ 50mg per day
GH 4iu per day
arimidex/clomid/tamoxifen on hand


My last cycle was 750mg sustanon per week along with anavar/winstrol. This is my first raw test cycle and I dont want to get roid rage or anything , not that i have suffered it before. Is this too much or ok?

Many thanks

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Gotta say that I don't like your cycle. Here's what I would do...
wk1-4-75mg test prop ED (prop should be shot ed for max gains and less sides)
wk1-12-250mg test enth or cyp e3d
wk9-15-50mg winny ed or 50mg var ed
GH 4iu ed

I don't like the idea of running 2 orals in one cycle. Even if one of them is anavar and it being so mild, I would still be hesitant. Just my .02, though.

-ODC

What are your goals for the cycle? Also, running 2 17a compounds back to back that long is not wise.

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Originally Posted by 4d4m

I have been training for 4 years i recently had a accident breaking my arm and I have lost 25lbs in weight.


I intent to do this cycle

Weeks 1-6 Enanthate @ 500mg per week
Weeks 6-12 Prop @ 100mg EOD
Weeks 1-6 Anavar @ 50mg per day
Weeks 6-12 Winstrol @ 50mg per day
GH 4iu per day
arimidex/clomid/tamoxifen on hand


My last cycle was 750mg sustanon per week along with anavar/winstrol. This is my first raw test cycle and I dont want to get roid rage or anything , not that i have suffered it before. Is this too much or ok?

Many thanks

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WK 1-12 Test prop 100mg/eod
Wk 6-12 Anavar 50mg/day
Gh 4iu per day
but thats just what i would do

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Originally Posted by bignatt

WK 1-12 Test prop 100mg/eod
Wk 6-12 Anavar 50mg/day
Gh 4iu per day
but thats just what i would do

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300-400mg test ew??? This is why I hate eod shots...Go with 75mg ed, yeah, daily shots suck, but so do zits on your back that make you look like a dart board. Just my .02, though.

And just a side note, I don't know if anyone else can tell the difference between ed and eod shots of prop, but I sure as hell can and I feel a TON better when I'm shooting anything that's fast acting ed. EOD makes me feel lethargic and, kindda like and up and down roller-coaster ride untill my next shot, but wil ed shots this is not the case for me.

-ODC

The only reason i kept it at eod was because it didnt look like he wanted to shoot ed i agree with you that ed is better but for some it doesnt matter

Many thanks for your reply`s bros im impressed and appreciate it. My goal is to get some lean mass on and get back to my weight before my accident. I need to net 5/6kg. I dont like being bloated i just want to be 80kg ripped. Will these suggestions do that?

4d4m

I will shoot EOD btw

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