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  1. 10-24-2004, 04:45 PM #1
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    Starting 4th week of sus/deca cycle...NO gains at all yet

    My last cycle I took was just sust on a pyramid cycle and within 4 weeks i was up like 8 lbs at least. I dont even think ive gained a lb so far. I know sus takes about 4 weeks to start getting into the system and everything but I dont know what the deal is. Do u think i'm maybe trying to eat TO HEALTHY? or just not eating enough?
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  2. 10-24-2004, 05:07 PM #2
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    prolly not eating enough...atleast 4000 calories a day is quite necessary man.
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  3. 10-24-2004, 05:40 PM #3
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    post a pic of it..it may not be legit
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    YOU probably aren't eating enough,but what kind is it?
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  5. 10-24-2004, 06:04 PM #5
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    its qv deca and tornell super test, i knwo tornell is underdosed so im taking 1.5 cc to try and equal 250mg each time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown$$
    its qv deca and tornell super test, i knwo tornell is underdosed so im taking 1.5 cc to try and equal 250mg each time
    how many total cc's of tornell are you taking a week?
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  7. 10-24-2004, 06:09 PM #7
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    3ccs total a week...but with it being tornel its really probably about 2cc's...so 500mg
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  8. 10-24-2004, 06:09 PM #8
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    i've used both and didn't get anything till i went to 250mg eod of the super test 250 and 300mg 2x wk and then it wasn't much. qv dbol didn't do much also

    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown$$
    its qv deca and tornell super test, i knwo tornell is underdosed so im taking 1.5 cc to try and equal 250mg each time
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  9. 10-24-2004, 06:10 PM #9
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    i was thinking about bumping it to more but i dunno. What do u think
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  10. 10-24-2004, 06:12 PM #10
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    this is my current cycle:
    1-11 500mg sust
    1-10 400mg deca
    8-13 50mg winny ed
    nolva b6 and pct to follow...
    Think i should maybe up the dosages of both the sus and deca?
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  11. 10-24-2004, 06:17 PM #11
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    i've used both and didn't get anything till i went to 250mg eod of the super test 250 and 300mg 2x wk and then it wasn't much. qv dbol didn't do much also.
    up the sust to 250mg eod
    deca to 300mg 2x wk total 600mg
    alot of people told me that was too much for a first cycle but i went with how my body responded, everyone is different


    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown$$
    this is my current cycle:
    1-11 500mg sust
    1-10 400mg deca
    8-13 50mg winny ed
    nolva b6 and pct to follow...
    Think i should maybe up the dosages of both the sus and deca?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown$$
    3ccs total a week...but with it being tornel its really probably about 2cc's...so 500mg
    i think 500mg might be generous, but some people have good luck with it.I would bump it up if you are not seeing any results.
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  13. 10-24-2004, 06:22 PM #13
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    people tell me that i look a little bigger but i still want to see the weight. so yea i think i'll up it to 250mg eod. Not too sure if i wanna up the deca or not. BUt if i do should i up the nolva or just adjust that as needed? thanks for all the input
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown$$
    people tell me that i look a little bigger but i still want to see the weight. so yea i think i'll up it to 250mg eod. Not too sure if i wanna up the deca or not. BUt if i do should i up the nolva or just adjust that as needed? thanks for all the input
    10mg of nolva should be good.
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  15. 10-24-2004, 08:39 PM #15
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    alright cool
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  16. 10-24-2004, 08:41 PM #16
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    so this is my new cycle:
    since im already on week 4
    4-11 750mg sus eod
    4-10 400mg deca
    8-13 50mg winny
    pct and nolva/b6/letro
    look right?
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  17. 10-24-2004, 09:20 PM #17
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    anyone
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  18. 10-24-2004, 09:27 PM #18
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    that looks good. did you look the batch number to make sure it is legit. qv's website is qualityvet.com i am not sure about tornel's
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  19. 10-24-2004, 09:31 PM #19
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    i'm on the tornell sust right now (250mg eod) and i've seen great gains, yeah it is underdosed, so you have to compensate for that. i would do some homework and find out if it is legit or not.
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  20. 10-24-2004, 09:34 PM #20
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    I showed pictures and everything to see if it was legit or not. but where could i find out the dosage and everything on it
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  21. 10-24-2004, 09:52 PM #21
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    you aren't eating enough. with the increased calories you should have at least put on a few pounds...go eat some food
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