Thread: Vets, Please Critique 1st Cycle
10-25-2004, 05:17 PM #1
Vets, Please Critique 1st Cycle
My stats are:
30 years old
11 years training
My planned 1st cycle is:
Weeks 1-12 Test E 500mg/wk, 1000mg week 1
Weeks 1-4 DBol 30mg/day
Weeks 1-14 Nolva 10mg/day
Weeks 1-17 Finast. 2mg/day
(PCT to start 2 weeks after last Test)
Clomid Day 1 300mg Day 2-21 100mg
Nolva Day 1-21 20mg
L-Dex Day 1-21 .25 mg
Some of you will surely look at my weight and assume that I can gain more naturally before turning to AAS. Let me assure you I train and eat optimally now.
My basal caloric requirement is 3173 cals. I plan on a 40/35/25 split 4500 cals/day on cycle.
What do you think about adding 300mg Deca Weeks 1-12? Too much for 1st?
If D-Bol is stopped at week 4, should Nolva be increased to 20 at week 4 for mini-PCT?
Bros, I appreciate any help and advice
10-25-2004, 05:22 PM #2
After your cycle I would continue to use finasteride -- propecia if you have mpb. You need to stay on for good to see results from it.
Why 1g of test during week 1? keep it at 500mg 1-12. You don't need the dbol since it is your first cycle.
10-25-2004, 05:28 PM #3Member
Originally Posted by fitnessNY
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Im guessing he is frontloading his first week which is the reason for the gram...
Also IMO theres nothin wrong with added Dbol or prop to jumpstart your cycle.. first or fifth...
10-25-2004, 05:30 PM #4
You might want to consider starting your finasteride BEFORE you start your cycle. There was a good post a while back on the subject. Ill try to edit in the link if I can find it.
10-25-2004, 05:31 PM #5Originally Posted by fitnessNY
Regular way of taking AS and its natural buildup progression:
Day 1 – 250mg
Day 7 – 125mg + 250mg = 375mg
Day 14 – 187.5 + 250mg = 437.5mg
Day 21 – 219.2 + 250mg = 469.2mg
Day 28 - 234.6 + 250mg = 484.6mg
Day 35 – 242.3 + 250mg = 492.3mg
Day 42 – 246.1 + 250mg = 496.1mg
Now progression with “Double Dose” front loading:
Day 1 – 500mg
Day 7 – 250mg + 250mg = 500mg
Day 14 – 250mg + 250mg = 500mg
Day 21 – 250mg + 250mg = 500mg
10-25-2004, 06:53 PM #6
10-25-2004, 07:25 PM #7Originally Posted by SMYL_GR8
10-25-2004, 07:36 PM #8
You're running D-bol to jump start the cycle so there's no need to front load the Enan. Also, bump the D-bol to 40mg ED.
If you use l-dex at .25mg through the cycle then you can just run 10mg of Nolva ED durring the cycle. But if you will only be using Nolva then run it straight thru the cycle and PCTat 20mg ED.
You should extend PCT to 30 days.
10-26-2004, 05:42 AM #9
Cool. I wasn't sure about the front-load, so maybe I'll leave that out. 40mg D-Bol is not too much? Is that 20mg twice a day?
Last edited by SMYL_GR8; 10-26-2004 at 06:11 AM.
10-26-2004, 07:08 AM #10Originally Posted by SMYL_GR8
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10-26-2004, 07:17 PM #12
bump. sorry, but don't want to clog board with same thread twice.
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10-26-2004, 10:20 PM #15Banned
Originally Posted by Anhydro78
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10-28-2004, 12:19 AM #18
Just Experiment with gene therapy, like beefcakestew has on his avatar bull.........Stuff does nasty things to animals and will be available for humans in o lets say about ten years. The problem is that it will cost a fortune so better prepare to fork over the bucks like beefcakestew has done already!!!!
10-28-2004, 05:45 AM #19
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