1st Cycle Critique

**GODstatus** · 10-30-2004, 10:26 AM

Here is my first bulking cycle...take a look and let me no...
Looking to gain some lean muslce

weeks 1 800mg eq
weeks 1 800mg test e

weeks 2-12 400mg eq
weeks 2-13 400mg test e
nolva 10mg ed
Proper PCT

**w_rballs** · 10-30-2004, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by GODstatus

Here is my first bulking cycle...take a look and let me no...
Looking to gain some lean muslce

weeks 1 800mg eq
weeks 1 800mg test e

weeks 2-12 400mg eq
weeks 2-13 400mg test e
nolva 10mg ed
Proper PCT

no need to frontlaod like that the first week. other than that u r good to go

**GODstatus** · 10-30-2004, 11:20 AM

why not frontload bro.....??? You think its too risky for a 1st cycle

**bmwrob** · 10-30-2004, 11:32 AM

Stick w/ Test only for a 1st cycle. If you start off w/ 2 compounds and have any bad sides then you won't know which one it was giving you those sides. 500mg Test/week (250mg twice a week) is a good place to start. For a minimum of 10 weeks. Good luck.

**w_rballs** · 10-30-2004, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by GODstatus

why not frontload bro.....??? You think its too risky for a 1st cycle

first cycle? u didnt mention that. u said it was your first buling cycle. yes definately stick with test e 500mg/week for 12 weeks

**toolman** · 10-30-2004, 12:32 PM

I agree to run only one compound for the first cycle, but if you insist on stacking, Eq would be the safest with the fewest sides risks. However, I think you will grow very nicely of 500mgs test e alone for your first cycle.

**GODstatus** · 10-30-2004, 12:39 PM

I guess I am off track, I should lay off the EQ and go with the test only then

I guess its the safest cycle....test e only at 400mg a week.....is that okay or I should go for 500mg.

**as79** · 10-30-2004, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by GODstatus

Here is my first bulking cycle...take a look and let me no...
Looking to gain some lean muslce

weeks 1 800mg eq
weeks 1 800mg test e

weeks 2-12 400mg eq
weeks 2-13 400mg test e
nolva 10mg ed
Proper PCT

If you're gonna run that cycle - the test should be run at a higher dose than the eq - bump up the test to 500mg

**youknowme** · 10-30-2004, 01:36 PM

I agree with the rest. If this is your first cycle you'll be fine with a test only cycle. To see how your body responds... If you still wanna do both EQ and test then don't front like that. And as previous speeker...run the test higher then EQ. Frontload with prop if you wanna front...
Good luck!

**PlasticFuture112** · 10-30-2004, 01:50 PM

do you think he would be better off using winny at 50mg ed than using eq at what he desires. Obviously it will give him minimal sides with good benefits, he looks to be using test to put on weight and eq to keep him leaner..

**GODstatus** · 10-30-2004, 03:25 PM

you nailed it man, I want to grow but stay lean, my diet is and workouts are good. I think I might stay with just test e and save the eq for another time

You think test e at 400mg for 13 weeks is good ??

**youknowme** · 10-30-2004, 03:41 PM

Go for it man

**imann** · 10-30-2004, 04:15 PM

EQ will help you stay lean....you could run it at 400mg a week with 500mg a week of test E for twelve weeks and with proper pct, that would be good cycle...jmo

**GODstatus** · 10-30-2004, 04:17 PM

thats what I had planned before, but many seem to think I should do just test for the first cycle. You think running the eq would be that much of a risk

**PlasticFuture112** · 10-30-2004, 07:53 PM

not really, eq has very minimal sides and it will actually probably help out with the test. i would recommend it to ya along with test. i am getting ready to start my first cycle as well. I am going to take Prop with winny or eq, not too sure yet. The thing is im only looking to gain max of 15-20lbs. but i want it to be lean muscle mass only. You could go with my cycle if you wanted the same results.

**w_rballs** · 10-31-2004, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by PlasticFuture112

not really, eq has very minimal sides and it will actually probably help out with the test. i would recommend it to ya along with test. i am getting ready to start my first cycle as well. I am going to take Prop with winny or eq, not too sure yet. The thing is im only looking to gain max of 15-20lbs. but i want it to be lean muscle mass only. You could go with my cycle if you wanted the same results.

seeing as to how u havent even done a cycle, please refrain from giving out advice on stuff u dont know about.

a first cycle should be test only. plain and simple.

your cycle is too elaborate for a frist cycle as well. this is what the mods and vets were talking about. please dont give out advice if u arent qualified

**PlasticFuture112** · 11-01-2004, 01:19 AM

w rballs you dont have to be on AAS to know about them bud....so dont try and act like a harda$$ in front of others. so in other words be quiet. thanks