just started cycle....1 question

1-8 500mg wk sus250
1-4 25mg ed dbol
5-8 40mg ed winny(tabs)

i cant get my hands on any clen. right now should i run some ripped fule or stacker 2 or something like that with the win.to cut the water weight down to min.?? thanks bros...

Equipoise

Fat burners won't help with water retention. What you are looking for is arimadex at .25mg or nolvadex at 10mg. Anti estrogen should help with water retention.

i would really like to cut some fat off as well..will the win help with that??

If you want to use both winny and dbol, I'll say you need to do a longer cycle. You don't want to run, especially those two, for 8 weeks straight. If you could lengthen the cycle to 12 weeks you can do the winny for last 6 weeks and give your liver a chance to recoup after the dbol. I don't know about fat loss, but it'll harden up nicely, winny that is.

Diet is what will cut the fat. Maybe a couple things can help but diet is #1

Ron is right diet and cardio will cut fat. Best fat burner on the market.

I agree with Ron, its all about the diet you run during AS wether you loose bf or not.

bro, extend the sust to upto 10-12 weeks
8 weeks is too short

Don't try to cut and bulk at the same time! Do one or the other. I am bulking now and I reallly am not concerned about fat until I am done w. my bulker. You will not get all you can out of your gear if you try and do both. do the bulk for 8 weeks then start cutting at week 9 and on w/ diet and Rip fuel, clen, ECA etc.....

Eat like a horse for the 8 weeks and gain like a mad man. Its harder to gain mass but its rather easy to cut fat.

next cycle start a mad cutter. Eq, fina, winny t3 whatever?

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Originally posted by thecoachman

Its harder to gain mass but its rather easy to cut fat.

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lol, speak for urself buddy!

With what you have got... change it a bit to...

500 mg sus for 10 weeks
25 mg dbol ed for weeks 1-4
50 mg winnie ed for weeks 8-12
Clomid 3 days after last winnie dose
** optional 0.25 mg arimidex ed.

This way you give your liver a break and make sure to load up on the milk thistle.