Igf 1

[LILLEN]

hello!

whats your opinions, thoughts and experiences of IGF 1 is it that god ?? Or is it just overkill to use by an amatur?? have 3 cycles behind me now and am about to start this next week.

1-4 d-bol 50 mg Ed
1-14 EQ 150 mg OED
1-14 sust 250 mg EOD
12-17 50mg anavar ED
12-17 50 mg tren acetate EOD
18-21 pct clomid nolva etc
20-24 IGF ! ( ? )

all comments welcome.

[BajanBastard]

Gives ue your stats bro, height, weight, exp training, bf %. Then we can help.......with that being said i don't like that cycle at all.

[LILLEN]

Gives ue your stats bro, height, weight, exp training, bf %. Then we can help.......with that being said i don't like that cycle at all.

how come??

[LILLEN]

173 cm tall
85 kg ripped ( as my best: 96 kg 6 % BF )
10years traineíngs exp with a gap for 2 years quite resently .. trying to get back in buisnies and to be on stage in a couple of years.
bf now ??

[BajanBastard]

Well not to say it's a bad cycle bro just i would slightly change up some things. I would run some thing like this..( 2 cycle options )

Testosterone enanthate 400 mg E3D / Sustanon 250 mg EOD 1-15 WKS
Trenbolone enanthahe 250 mg E3D / Trenbolone acatate 75 mg ED 1-10 WKS
Boldenone undec 250 mg E3D / Boldenone undec 250 mg E3D 1-14 WKS
Oxanadrolone (var) 50 mg ED / Oxanadrolone (var) 50 mg ED 11-17
Letrozole 1 mg ED / Letrozole 1 mg ED<--- Starting 2-3 wks before cycle.
Nolva 10 mg ED <--- optional but I would use it for lipid control, however it reduces the lertozole by 46% adujust the letro dose if needed.
PCT...clomid, nolva, letrozole.
I know some will disagree with this cycle so if you do please chime in.

[LILLEN]

well I never used tren before so thats why i start with such low dose- just wanna feel it and see if it fits me.

whats your opinion on IGF 1 to my pct . for keeping / increase the gain from this bulk cyckle.?

[BajanBastard]

You know in the end it's your body we can only guide with opinons and experiences. IMO Trenbolone at 50 mg EOD is not cutting it. I did Trenbolone acetate at 75mg ed + testosterone enanthate at 500mg wk for only 6 wks as a 1st cycle and gained 20 lean solid lbs. No problems i for one belive trenbolone side effects are WAY overrated. It's your call tho bro. As for the IGF-1 i have no exp with it so i can't advise you on it really, try reading up in the gh insulin forum. If i were to use it someday tho i would use it with insulin and gh along with my cycle. I've seen studies which show that GH and IGF-1 work better together than alone. 20-50mcg IGF-1 postwork so it can attach to all the newly produced receptor sites in the muscle from the stress and damage from hard training.

[LILLEN]

thnx for your time, very kind.
Ok so I should upper the dose on tren . i go for 50mg ED . the last 7 weeks.
how does that sound??

[LILLEN]

or after reading your posts again im consider change to your recomended cycle.

[LILLEN]

And what about IGF 1 anyone?
1) how to injekt? any timing to consider? day , night , before bedtime?
2) IM is the only way?
3) does nolvadex lower my IGF 1 in my body??

[Gear]

You can do Sub-Q or IM, but most people prefer IM. The dose can be split in more than one dose daily. Go to the IGF forum to get more info there

[BajanBastard]

I've read IGF-1 should be injected post-workout, yet posts here bros inject it IM in the muscle group pre-workout. About the nolva suppressing IGF levels....don't worry about it. I'm sure it's minimal and won't hinder gains much (if at all) plus the exogenous IGF-1 you will be taking will more than make up for it. Peace out bro hope all goes well with your cycle.

[Seajackal]

And what about IGF 1 anyone?
1) how to injekt? any timing to consider? day , night , before bedtime?
2) IM is the only way?
3) does nolvadex lower my IGF 1 in my body??

Question #2 - shoot it twice a day, 1 in the morning and 1 right
after workouts. By the way don't use slin and IGF1 at once they
maybe lethal if you don't know how to dose them.