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1 - 4 Prop
1-4 anadrols
1-10 tren-e
1 - 12 Enan
1 - 12 EQ
13 - 15 Prop
12 - 15 Halo
1 - 15 L-dex
1 - 15 Nolva
this is what i was thinking about running this spring .. my main goals are to bulk up by gaining lean muscle mass and still haveing a ripped look.... give me your feedback] .. is there anything i should add or change what would u do ? thanks
You need to be a little more specific if you want critiques. Example my cycle posted a while back.
My very first shot was 1,000mgs of testosterone and 600mgs of Deca and then I went to split up bi-weekly injections three days later
400mgs E/W Testosterone Enanthate weeks 1-15 Bi-weekly shots
100mgs E/D Testosterone Propionate weeks 1-16
600mgs E/W Nandrolone Decanoate weeks 1-4 Bi-weekly shots
300mgs E/W Nandrolone Decanoate weeks 5-15 Bi-weekly shots
400mgs E/W Boldenone Decanoate weeks 5-15 Bi-weekly shots
75mgs E/D Anadrol weeks 1-6 dose split up 3 ways
100mgs E/D Trenbolone acetate weeks 7-16
30mgs E/D Halotestin weeks 12-16 dose split up 3 ways 1.25mgs Eo/D Femera weeks 1-16
10mgs E/D Nolvadex weeks 1-16
500iu HCG twice a week every other week, weeks 2-16
T3 cycle like this
Days 1,2…40mcgs
Days 3,4…60 mcgs
Days 4,5…80mcgs
Days 5,6...100 mcgs
Days 7-27…120mcgs
Days 27-30…120 mcgs
Days 31-34…100 mcgs
Days 35-38… 80 mcgs
Days 39-42… 60mcgs
Days 43-55...40mcgs
Days 55-60...20mcgs
I am going to do a Pct that consists of either Famera or armidex , Nolvadex, Clomid and taking Clomid for an extended period of time. Also going to add creatine during and after PCT.
Here is the supplements Im taking through the whole cycle
4,000 mgs of Tribulus E/D
2,000 mgs of R-ALA E/D
3,000 mgs of vitamin C E/D
3,000 iu of vitamin E E.D
4 multivitamin tablets E/D
1,600 mgs of milk thistle E/D
1 b-complex pill or subligual B complex liquid E/D
400mgs B6 E/D
1,000 mcg B12 E/D
100mgs of soy Isoflavones
500mgs Garlic 5,000 mcg allicin E/D
30grams L-Glutamine E/D
300-350 grams of Protein powder whey mostly with a little soy and egg
4 table spoons (24g) Flax seeds E/D
3 teaspoons (15ml) Flax seed oil
3,000 mgs of conjugated linoleic acid
Here is a sample diet that im going to be eating
Upon waking
glass of milk with 50grams of protein.
morning meal
4-6 eggs whole
sausage or bacon
1 bowl of oatmeal with either blue berrys or strawberrys, splenda, smart balance butter
Morning snack
low carb high protein (8g) yogurt
a peice of fruit banana,plum, peach
Glass of milk with 50 grams of protein
Lunch
Either two chicken breasts or two beef pattys or steak Fresh vegtables probally a salad with normal ranch dressing
Cranberry juice
about an hour later
glass of milk with 50 grams of protein
Mid day snack
cheese slices or summer sausage or beef jerky that equals at least 30 grams of protein. ANother peice of fruit. probally blue berrys ( im trying to eat alot of blue berrys)
about an hour later
protein shake 50g with water
and a peice of fruit
Dinner is allways a home cooked meal which can be anything with alot of meat
A salad with all the vegtables and what ever the women cooks for sides
a couple hours later
protein shake 50g with water
cranberry juice
night snack either leftovers from dinner or chicken breast or beef pattys plain.
some kind of V8 juice either fruit or vegtable
Right before bed another low carb high protein yogurt and another 50g protein shake with water
When and if I wake up at night
50g protein shake with water
Cycle history #/weight/ goals ?????????
stats? dosages?
why u "double kickstart" your cycle with both prop and drols? why so many drugs? how many cycles have u done in the past?
I would run that cycle like this:Quote:
Originally Posted by eric2484
WK 1-4 Prop 50mg ED
WK 1-13 Test E 750mg Mon/Thurs
WK 1-12 EQ 500mg Mon/Thurs
WK 14-16 Prop 75mg ED
1-16 Nolva 10mg ED
1-16 L-dex (don't know the dosage)
I've dropped the drols, halo and the tren cause IMO you're running to much at once...
well i deff want to run the tren and drols.... so how could i work them in with the rest of the cycle.... why is it bad to run to much at once?
Sure you could toss in the drols and tren. Run the tren as you first intended then week 1-10. And run the drols week 1-4 though I think it's pretty unnessacery to jumpstart with both drols and prop...IMO.
I was wondering when someone would have this idea...Quote:
Originally Posted by eric2484
Why do you want to do this? The only reason I could think of is that Tren has the highest AR-binding ability of any steroid presently available, and that Anadrol has the lowest.
Bill Roberts (a bright guy) put forth the theory that high binding gear (which he called Class 1) combined with low binding gear (yeah, he called it Class 2) would produce optimal stacks. Then the internet parrots ran with that ball...H.F. even wrote a horrible "article" on "How to stack opposing "classes" of Steroids" (w/o mentioning that he stole Bill Roberts idea). And again, "monkey think - monkey do" types of people started copying and pasting that all over the net (and on the 8 million boards they visit and mod on).
The Anadrol/Tren stack is the logical, ultimate conclusion to the "Class1/Class2" theory, and proof that even smart guys (like Bill Roberts) can have ideas that are...well ...dumb. At least it was original when he thought of it....
Ill help you out bud but you have to take the time to give some specific information. With what you have listed it seems that you want someone to create a cycle for you. Thats fine but you have to indicate that is what you are looking for.
Orals are not only used to kickstart cycles. Many Orals have benifits besides quick water retention. There is nothing wrong with either front loading or jumpstarting your testosterone while also taking orals.