ok listen since no one is really giving me the answer i need,, i will putit this way... if u guys could some upwiht your own cycles that u think would be perfect for bulking up and packing on large amounts of lean muscle that would be great i wanna use tren, eq, test e, and anadrols maybe some prop to kick start it .. whats a better kickstarter prop or anadols? can i use both... if u wanna give me your own idea of a great cycle thats fine too just GIVE ME SOME FEEDBACK thanks