help on 2nd cycle

[G-Force]

i am going to run Sust, EQ, Dbol and anavar

i will run Dbol@ 40mg/day for first 4 weeks
and anavar @30mg/day for the last 5 weeks

i am unsure about the dose of sust and EQ to use however?
and at what time to stop them and when to start PCT etc

i would like to run EQ for 12 weeks

any suggestions...

[youknowme]

Sust need to be ran EOD. Run sust at 437.5mg/week(125mg EOD) and EQ at 400mg/week. Run the sust a week past EQ b4 you start PCT. IMO Test e or cyp would be better for a 2nd cycle, easier in so many ways...

[G-Force]

i did test E for my first cycle, wanted to try something different- i was planning on the sust EOD as well as the EQ

should i do them in the same shot or do EQ monday, then Sust Tuesday etc

and should i run the anavar past the Sust/EQ?

[youknowme]

You only have to take the EQ 2 times/week but if you wanna spread it out over the hole week then put it in the same syringe.

[G-Force]

i think i will prob spread it out,
if i put it in the same shot then it will be less injections which is a plus
although i'm used to daily shots as i ran Winny for 4 weeks last time


so far its:

weeks 1- 4 Dbol 40mg/day
weeks 1- 12 EQ 400mg/week (or 100mg/EOD)
weeks 1 - 13 Sust 125mg/EOD

what about the Anavar ?

[fabry]

if u can, change sust with enanth!
var for only 5 wks will be "half" a waste... buy more or save for another cycle...
pct starts 3 wks after last sust (or eq) jab (or 2 wks after last enanth shot)
dont run var past eq/sust
lets say:
1-4 dbols
1-12 sust
1-12 eq
8-15 var

[fabry]

sorry, i meant dont run var after tbe day u start pct!

[youknowme]

I wrote kinda blurry earlier on with the PCT and all, sorry...
I sorta agree with fabry, save the var for your next cycle or buy some more.

I think that your cycle as it is:
weeks 1- 4 Dbol 40mg/day
weeks 1- 12 EQ 400mg/week (or 100mg/EOD)
weeks 1 - 13 Sust 125mg/EOD

looks good...

[youknowme]

though don't run EQ at 100mg EOD that'll end up at 350mg/week and 400mg is the minimum IMO. 400mg/week, the easiest way to do it is Mon/Thurs injections at 200mg.

[G-Force]

should i stop the EQ and Sust at the same time?

then i believe i have to wait 2 weeks before starting PCT?

[G-Force]

though don't run EQ at 100mg EOD that'll end up at 350mg/week and 400mg is the minimum IMO. 400mg/week, the easiest way to do it is Mon/Thurs injections at 200mg.

really?

on a couple of web sites inc this one it says 150 - 300mg a week with most athletes choosing to run 50mg EOD

[youknowme]

Nope...run your sust one week longer and wait 2 weeks b4 start PCT, correct.

[G-Force]

i dont wish to start an argument here (i do really though) but Fabry said to finish EQ and Sust at the same time...

[youknowme]

I disagree with him. The halflife of Test along with sust/omna is 14 days. EQ is 21 days. Thats why you run your test a week longer.

[G-Force]

by the way i will be running HGH @ 4IU's a day with it

i have already started the HGH and will run for 12 weeks before i start this cycle

not sure if that changes anything

i wanted to run Anavar , but i'm not even sure i need it with everything elae i am doing...

[youknowme]

For how many weeks (total) are you running HGH?

[G-Force]

12 weeks before and then the duration of my above cycle
so 24 weeks total

i'm on 2.4IU's at the moment but will boost up to 4IUs when i beging the AAS

if i have enough i will try and run the HGH during PCT too

[fabry]

if i dont say anyting stupid, there is an esther in sust that lasts for 21 days, same for eq!
so pct starts 3 wks after last sust-eq shot... but check it better, there must be a lot of posts about sust relative pct!

[Mesomorphyl]

if i dont say anyting stupid, there is an esther in sust that lasts for 21 days, same for eq!
so pct starts 3 wks after last sust-eq shot... but check it better, there must be a lot of posts about sust relative pct!

I back this, and if you run var make sure you do at least 40mg ed but 60mg ed would be better.

[G-Force]

i heard that you should do 0.125mg per 1lb of bodyweight

i'm 200lbs so that would mean 25mg

i think it says on this site use 20-30mg/day


????

[youknowme]

My bad ...pct 18 days after last shot of sust is recommended after what I've read...

[G-Force]

so i finish the sust 4 days after the EQ?

[Mesomorphyl]

i heard that you should do 0.125mg per 1lb of bodyweight

i'm 200lbs so that would mean 25mg

i think it says on this site use 20-30mg/day


????

How can you accurately predict that? I am giving you advice based on personal experience. What you have read is probably out dated. Var IMO is more of a waste if not taken in high enough doses than if not taken long enough. It is a very mild steroid ; take it for 6 weeks and 40mg ed at least. My 2c.c.'s (plagurized)

[G-Force]

ok

i'm not sure if i'm even going to run it, as i'll be running so much other gear, icluding the HGH, so i may not even need it

yeah i know var is mild, so i will definitely up the dose/length if i use it

[G-Force]

so i finish the sust 4 days after the EQ?

anyone....