Help me form this cycle please

[Mista Massive]

OK, this will be my second cycle, my first being

week 1-12 test e @ 500mg/week an
week 5 -11 dbol @ 30 mg/day

this cycle i'll be using test prop, NPP, and dbol.

i'm really unsure of the doses and length. especially the dose of the NPP

either gonna be a 4, 6, or 8 week cycle

[hugovsilva]

For 8 weeks I would do:

You don't need the Dbol for quickstart because of the short esters, but if you really want to run it, this is what I would do:

1-4: Dbol @ 40mg ed
1-8: test prop @ 75-100mg ed
1-7: NPP @ 75md ed

I would add proviron through out @ 50mg ed.

PCT starting week 9.

[shredzs]

For 8 weeks I would do:

You don't need the Dbol for quickstart because of the short esters, but if you really want to run it, this is what I would do:

1-4: Dbol @ 40mg ed
1-8: test prop @ 75-100mg ed
1-7: NPP @ 75md ed

I would add proviron through out @ 50mg ed.

PCT starting week 9.

sounds good

[Mista Massive]

was thinking more like

week 1-4 dbol @ 35mg/day
week 1-6 test prop @ 150mg EOD
week 1-6 NPP @ 100mg EOD

maybe i'm just scared of higher doses, i dunno.

is my idea of NPP not high enough even for a first cycle?

and with PCT, wouldn't it start 3 days after last shot of test prop?

[Mista Massive]

oh, the reason i'm only going 6 weeks is cos i grow in small spurts. i want to limit the time i shut down my natty test levels to enable a quicker recovery thus ensuring better keep gains, that's the theory anyway

on my 12 weeker, nearly 8 of those weeks did hardly anything, even though i was upping my cals and training intensity

[Mista Massive]

For 8 weeks I would do:

You don't need the Dbol for quickstart because of the short esters, but if you really want to run it, this is what I would do:

1-4: Dbol @ 40mg ed
1-8: test prop @ 75-100mg ed
1-7: NPP @ 75md ed

I would add proviron through out @ 50mg ed.

PCT starting week 9.

it looks good, but would u say those dosages are too high considering it's only my second cycle

[Mista Massive]

anyone?

[hugovsilva]

was thinking more like

week 1-4 dbol @ 35mg/day
week 1-6 test prop @ 150mg EOD
week 1-6 NPP @ 100mg EOD

maybe i'm just scared of higher doses, i dunno.

is my idea of NPP not high enough even for a first cycle?

and with PCT, wouldn't it start 3 days after last shot of test prop?

It looks good, with balanced dosages.

I would just run the test prop 1 week ahead of the NPP.

[Kale]

Shoot ED dude. I am doing NPP right now and I have no sides at all. For that short a cycle the higher doses are probably better as well

[Mista Massive]

Shoot ED dude. I am doing NPP right now and I have no sides at all. For that short a cycle the higher doses are probably better as well

i know what u mean, but how high are we talking here. remember, it's only my second cycle

[Bigmax]

those doses arent high at all bro....Ed shots will keep your blood levels stable...those are fast acting compounds you are using...in and out of the system so more frequent injects are needed...

[Mista Massive]

any dosage ideas?

also, if i am going to start PCT 3 days after last shot of prop, when would i have last shot of NPP?

[perfectbeast2001]

any dosage ideas?

also, if i am going to start PCT 3 days after last shot of prop, when would i have last shot of NPP?

same day as the prop. And the doses suggested look good to me. ED is def the way to go to minimize sides mate.

[Mista Massive]

same day as the prop. And the doses suggested look good to me. ED is def the way to go to minimize sides mate.

thanks beast!

I don't mind doing ED injections at 75mg each of the prop and NPP.

i just really didn't think higher dosages were necessary as it is only my second cycle.

[t-gunz]

hey mista massive

long time no speak... hope everythings well...

good luck with your cycle bro

[Mista Massive]

i've decided to go with:

week 1-4 Dianabol @ 30mg ED
week 1-6 Test Prop @ 100mg ED
week 1-6 NPP @ 75mg ED

i decided to up the test dosage as the cycle is pretty short

a-dex @ 0.20 mg ED to reduce bloat as i am very prone to water retention and my face looks like a balloon on cycle.

PCT:
day 1-30 nolva @ 20mg ED
day 1-30 clomid @ 100mg ED
day 1-30 A-dex @ 0.25 mg ED

used that PCT last time and recovered perfect



The only thing i'm unsure about is whether to use the dbol or not? i know it will come down to personal choice so i'd like to hear any comments on it at all

[Mista Massive]

any comments or (constructive) criticism is welcome

[t-gunz]

i was on dbol and to be honest i'd rather the test prop.. i think that would be suffiecient

[Mista Massive]

yeah

i've done dbol b4 and loved it during a test e cycle

just wanted to know if it is worth doing it in this cycle