Tren E Where Is It?

**blah-blah** · 11-11-2004, 07:43 PM

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**HollywoodM3** · 11-11-2004, 07:47 PM

Keep looking bro, its out there, but I would keep this off the boards...

**Iowa** · 11-11-2004, 07:50 PM

I would edit that last line of your post bro.

**Property of Steroid.com** · 11-11-2004, 07:55 PM

It'll be harder to find one after you're banned...please don't post stuff like this.

**Latino~Heat** · 11-11-2004, 08:42 PM

im sure you'll find something..but man, dont post that ur advertising to buy...askin' to get SCAMMED!

**Jackman** · 11-11-2004, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by hooker

It'll be harder to find one after you're banned...please don't post stuff like this.

**Jackt23** · 11-11-2004, 11:20 PM

if tren e is a problem....whynot just run tren a.....so ya gotta inject more....no worries....its also cheaper and alot easier to come by...just a suggestion

take care

jackt

**Property of Steroid.com** · 11-12-2004, 03:07 PM

For some reason, TrenE is the sexy new drug right now....so it's in demand.

I think soon it'll be Masteron E that's the new thing everyone wants.

**Jack87** · 11-12-2004, 04:46 PM

Tren Ent is easier to find then you think... Alot of UG Labs are
making it now and personally after Test and D-bol it's my new
favorite drug to use... I love the stuff for strength gains IMO
it can't be beat.. Also give very solid high quality gains with
only 2x injections per week... And is stronger then Tren Act
because with the longer ester it builds to higher levels in your
body after about 3-4 weeks... Honestly I got tired of injecting
ED with Tren Act... Started to feel like a pin cushion...

**djboots** · 11-12-2004, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by blah-blah

why is it so f---in hard to find a source for tren e?
i though i had one and they decided to stop selling
i just can't win is it really that popular or is it that rarely made some info or pm's are welcome

i know where to get some. AT MY HOUSE because i got plenty of it

**BUYLONGTERM** · 11-12-2004, 05:02 PM

Just follow the white rabbit.......................

**Property of Steroid.com** · 11-12-2004, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by buff87

... And is stronger then Tren Act
because with the longer ester it builds to higher levels in your
body after about 3-4 weeks... ...

No...it's weaker, actually.

**Fit2bLarge** · 11-12-2004, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by hooker

No...it's weaker, actually.

you beat me too it.

tren a is stronger per ml than tren e

**Jack87** · 11-12-2004, 07:11 PM

Bro not to disagree but consider I started using anabolics at 23 and
I'm 35 now I have to say Tren Ent is one of the strongest drugs I've
ever used... This isn't from what someone told me on a message board
but from life experience, the sides are more intense and the hormone
builds to much higher levels... Just look at the half-lifes, so the math
and you'll see when i mean... Tren act is no match for what Tren Ent
will do at 500mg per week... Not to mention the gains IMO are better...

Originally Posted by hooker

No...it's weaker, actually.

**Jack87** · 11-12-2004, 07:14 PM

Trick is finding a UG Lab that actually dosed it right and does not
try to cut corners... I know the shorter ester hit you faster, but
for me Tren Ent kicks in after 2 full weeks and by week 4-5 the
gains are pretty impressive... I've never used any cycle where
every week I was strong even after a 12-14 hour days at work
and i was run down, but on Tren Ent stacked with Test I was
stronger every single week no matter if i was run down or not...

**Jack87** · 11-12-2004, 07:17 PM

Alright I gotta ask.... Who the hell is the white rabbit???

Originally Posted by buylongterm

Just follow the white rabbit.......................

**Jack87** · 11-12-2004, 07:22 PM

BTW where are my other Tren Ent guys
that love the stuff to back me up...
You know who you are...

***BajanBastard*** · 11-12-2004, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by hooker

No...it's weaker, actually.

Do you mean it's stronger because you get more active hormore per 100 mg Hooker? Or is there somethong else? Many seem to belive that the enanthate give better gains over time because the trenbolones longer half-life. thanks bro

**Property of Steroid.com** · 11-12-2004, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by buff87

Bro not to disagree but consider I started using anabolics at 23 and
I'm 35 now I have to say Tren Ent is one of the strongest drugs I've
ever used... This isn't from what someone told me on a message board
but from life experience, the sides are more intense and the hormone
builds to much higher levels... Just look at the half-lifes, so the math
and you'll see when i mean... ...

You are allowed to disagree...saying "not to disagree" isn't necessary....

Do you know the blood levels that shorter esters provide, when compared to long esters? We're talking about blood plasma levels here, not the half-lives. They are different...and I think you are confusing them...the few mgs extra in shorter esters do not directly correlate in a proportionate mathmatical sence to the blood plasma levels attained.

If you look at the chart in my deca profile, you'll see that the the phenylprop ester is compared to the decanoate ester (there is only a difference of mere mgs in terms of how much actual drug is in the drug...due to the ester length); the Phenylprop ester provided almost DOUBLE the blood plasma level of the decanoate ester. This level remained increased for almost a week.. By 2 weeks, even though the nandrolone decanoate ester demonstrated a much higher plasma level than the nandrolone phenylpropionate level, the net amount of both was way too low to be considered effective.

Shorter esters provide a blood plasma level so much higher, it's not in any able to be correlated to the measly few extra mgs provided by the shorter ester length.

The Journal of Pharmacology And Experimental Therapeutics, Vol 281, No. 1; 93-102, 1997.

**Property of Steroid.com** · 11-12-2004, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by hooker

You are allowed to disagree...saying "not to disagree" isn't necessary....

Do you know the blood levels that shorter esters provide, when compared to long esters? We're talking about blood plasma levels here, not the half-lives. They are different...and I think you are confusing them...the few mgs extra in shorter esters do not directly correlate in a proportionate mathmatical sence to the blood plasma levels attained.

If you look at the chart in my deca profile, you'll see that the the phenylprop ester is compared to the decanoate ester (there is only a difference of mere mgs in terms of how much actual drug is in the drug...due to the ester length); the Phenylprop ester provided almost DOUBLE the blood plasma level of the decanoate ester. This level remained increased for almost a week.. By 2 weeks, even though the nandrolone decanoate ester demonstrated a much higher plasma level than the nandrolone phenylpropionate level, the net amount of both was way too low to be considered effective.

Shorter esters provide a blood plasma level so much higher, it's not in any able to be correlated to the measly few extra mgs provided by the shorter ester length.

The Journal of Pharmacology And Experimental Therapeutics, Vol 281, No. 1; 93-102, 1997.

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

Do you mean it's stronger because you get more active hormore per 100 mg Hooker? Or is there somethong else? Many seem to belive that the enanthate give better gains over time because the trenbolones longer half-life. thanks bro

HOpefully the explanation above will answer your question as well.

**Jack87** · 11-12-2004, 07:39 PM

I understand all that very well bro, but I'm also speaking from
experience... I've used alot of Tren Act and I'm telling you Tren
Ent is much stronger... I'll just leave it like this at least for me it
is... I have never used a stronger androgen/anabolic drug... The
results and what it did speak for themself...

I know I'm not alone thinking this... On paper is one thing, real
world experience is something else... If I speak of something I
have done it and I know Tren Ent is not only a stronger drug,
but also a better option with only 2x injections per week needed...
Granted I ran it between 500-600mg per week and did have some
sides i didn't like, but the gains were much better then anything
I ever got from Tren Act... You post makes sense, I know what
you speak of, but I also know what Tren Ent did for me and I can
get anything I want and from not on the only choice for me with
tren is going to be Tren Ent based on results...

**Property of Steroid.com** · 11-12-2004, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by buff87

I understand all that very well bro, but I'm also speaking from
experience... I've used alot of Tren Act and I'm telling you Tren
Ent is much stronger... I'll just leave it like this at least for me it
is... I have never used a stronger androgen/anabolic drug... The
results and what it did speak for themself...

I know I'm not alone thinking this... On paper is one thing, real
world experience is something else... If I speak of something I
have done it and I know Tren Ent is not only a stronger drug,
but also a better option with only 2x injections per week needed...
Granted I ran it between 500-600mg per week and did have some
sides i didn't like, but the gains were much better then anything
I ever got from Tren Act... You post makes sense, I know what
you speak of, but I also know what Tren Ent did for me and I can
get anything I want and from not on the only choice for me with
tren is going to be Tren Ent based on results...

Your original post asked me to do the math.

I just did it for you, and showed that shorter esters provide a much higher blood plasma level of a given compound. Regardless of the "Build-up effect" of a longer ester.

Now the argument has moved from "Do the math.." to "On paper is one thing..."

In response to this new argument, I can only say that I've used both and find Tren A to be better.

**Jack87** · 11-12-2004, 07:57 PM

That's fine bro... I know alot of experienced bros that have used both
and perfer Tren Ent hands down to Tren Act... It's all a matter of what
you perfer I guess... Just like some guys love Test Prop for 10-12 weeks
and others perfer Test Ent or Cyp instead... I just personally think based
on the half-lifes that the enanthate ester builds to much higher levels and
this effect gains, at least for me... We're allowed to differ in opinion, no
big deal...

Originally Posted by hooker

Your original post asked me to do the math.

I just did it for you, and showed that shorter esters provide a much higher blood plasma level of a given compound. Regardless of the "Build-up effect" of a longer ester.

Now the argument has moved from "Do the math.." to "On paper is one thing..."

In response to this new argument, I can only say that I've used both and find Tren A to be better.

**Jack87** · 11-12-2004, 07:59 PM

BTW thanks for taking the time to post the info you did...
It only adds to the board and helps everyone even more...

***BajanBastard*** · 11-12-2004, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by hooker

HOpefully the explanation above will answer your question as well.

K thanks buddy..but like buff said in the trenches exp is where it's at.

**Property of Steroid.com** · 11-12-2004, 08:08 PM

Also...keep in mind, if you read that study I posted as a reference (or my deca profile, which has the charts in it),you'll see that more highly concentrated gear produces a higher blood level of it...even when total mgs are the same. 4cc's of Deca (100mgs total; 25mgs/ml) produced lower blood plasma levels than 1cc of deca (100mgs total; 100mg/ml).

If you used a more highly concentrated Tren E (200-250mgs/ml) as compared to an equal amount of Tren A (which is usually 75-100mgs/ml) per week, then you could get better results. Thats a possible explanation as to why you experienced better results. It's not the ester length, in this case, more likely its due to concentration.

**Property of Steroid.com** · 11-12-2004, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

K thanks buddy..but like buff said in the trenches exp is where it's at.

I was one of the first to try Tren E...how's that for in the trenches?

(I was the first EVER to try Masteron E also...)

When I sent the Tren E to be tested by SRCS, they said they had nothing to compare it to because it had never been tested before with that ester...ever!

I'm in the trenches....believe me... I'm not FC*****t, F**z or someone like them...I try to combine practical experience with research as best as I can.

**Jack87** · 11-12-2004, 08:16 PM

hooker, bro i know you have a solid rep, i know the boards well...
i appreciate you taking the time to write profiles on certain drug
compounds... i'm just sold on Tren Ent over Tren Act now until
the day i die... For me it is that big of a difference... But everyone
is different and what works best for me may not work the best for
someone else... It's all good bro... Like I said that's for taking the
time to post the info, that's what makes this a great board to be on...

***BajanBastard*** · 11-12-2004, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by buff87

BTW thanks for taking the time to post the info you did...
It only adds to the board and helps everyone even more...

I agree this hooker dude in't to bad....

***BajanBastard*** · 11-12-2004, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by hooker

I was one of the first to try Tren E...how's that for in the trenches?

(I was the first EVER to try Masteron E also...)

When I sent the Tren E to be tested by SRCS, they said they had nothing to compare it to because it had never been tested before with that ester...ever!

I'm in the trenches....believe me... I'm not FC*****t, F**z or someone like them...I try to combine practical experience with research as best as I can.

Wow.....very cool Hooker....i'm looking forward to trying the drostanolone enanthate myself.

**Property of Steroid.com** · 11-12-2004, 08:23 PM

Thanks...I try...

**Fit2bLarge** · 11-12-2004, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by hooker

Thanks...I try...

you obviously dont have to try very hard. excellent information.

**100%NATURAL-theGH** · 11-12-2004, 11:05 PM

im hungry

**Fit2bLarge** · 11-12-2004, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by 100%NATURAL-theGH

im hungry

suck on one of theeeeze...

**kingofmasters** · 11-13-2004, 07:54 AM

Yo hooker I agree with Buff87 on the issue that Tren E. seems to be far superior to Tren A.

You are right that mg for mg you get more Trenbolone with the acetate

BUT....

(From my Steroid -guide!!)

Esters Explained:
Most Injectable steroids are esterfied --> Meaning they have an ester attached to them...
Esters slow the release of the steroidmolecules...
Not only does this mean you have to inject less frequently to keep blood levels stable then with the Base...
The ester also affects the characteristics of the steroid, even though it has the same parentmolecule, this has three reasons:

1) Some steroids benefit more from a steady release of molecules then from "shocking" the body by saturating all receptors at once
2) The ester affects the Molecular weight of the total meaning longer esters mean less of the parent hormone
(Test Undecanoate is the longest ester and will yield about 60% Testosteron per mg in contrast to Test Base which is 100%)
3) Enzymes-interactions --> The body works with a Feedbacksystem, the higher the concentration the more the body will try to normalize the old situation (Homeostasis), that's why in theory Test Base is the worst for Gyno since the enormous amount of accumelating Test in the blood in a short period, will be compensated by an enormous amount of Estrogenproduction (which when turned to Estradiol will cause a hell of a lot of trouble).

Look at point 1 and 3 and you will see why Tren Enantate seems to yield far better results...

Greets
Kingofmasters

P.S.1 How did you experience Masteron Enantate?
It seems pretty useless to me seeing Drostanolone is a DHT-compound and a DHT-compound with a longer ester is something which defies its purpose...
DHT is best used for a "hardening" effect at the end of a cycle and ergogenetically speaking DHT works its magic best when it it is shortly active (so "schocking" the receptors) and looses its potency over time in the body.
Just my Two cents...

P.S.2 Have some "custommade" Clostebol Enantate here on hand

P.S.3 Have you ever used Oxabolone Cypionate (I have some laying here as well) and how did you experience it?

**Property of Steroid.com** · 11-13-2004, 09:13 AM

There are many leaps of logic, unfounded assumptions, and fallacies in there. I'm sorry, but I can't even begin to respond.

**kingofmasters** · 11-13-2004, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by hooker

There are many leaps of logic, unfounded assumptions, and fallacies in there. I'm sorry, but I can't even begin to respond.

By all means do...

**Property of Steroid.com** · 11-13-2004, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by buff87

hooker, bro i know you have a solid rep, i know the boards well...
..

Don't go on rep...go on what I produce currently. I can name several mods who have good reps and who are mods on 5+ boards, and they are horrible sources of information. Just lazy and content with their reps. Reps...are as good as your last post...IMO.

**kingofmasters** · 11-13-2004, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by hooker

Don't go on rep...go on what I produce currently. I can name several mods who have good reps and who are mods on 5+ boards, and they are horrible sources of information. Just lazy and content with their reps. Reps...are as good as your last post...IMO.

Very true and solid...

But still I'm waiting for your insight and criticism om my story....

**Jack87** · 11-13-2004, 10:13 AM

Very true... I should have added I know from your rep you know
what you're talking about too... Very good info on this post bro...

Originally Posted by hooker

Don't go on rep...go on what I produce currently. I can name several mods who have good reps and who are mods on 5+ boards, and they are horrible sources of information. Just lazy and content with their reps. Reps...are as good as your last post...IMO.