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    Tren E Where Is It?

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    Keep looking bro, its out there, but I would keep this off the boards...

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    I would edit that last line of your post bro.

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    It'll be harder to find one after you're banned...please don't post stuff like this.

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    im sure you'll find something..but man, dont post that ur advertising to buy...askin' to get SCAMMED!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooker
    It'll be harder to find one after you're banned...please don't post stuff like this.


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    if tren e is a problem....whynot just run tren a.....so ya gotta inject more....no worries....its also cheaper and alot easier to come by...just a suggestion

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    For some reason, TrenE is the sexy new drug right now....so it's in demand.

    I think soon it'll be Masteron E that's the new thing everyone wants.

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    Tren Ent is easier to find then you think... Alot of UG Labs are
    making it now and personally after Test and D-bol it's my new
    favorite drug to use... I love the stuff for strength gains IMO
    it can't be beat.. Also give very solid high quality gains with
    only 2x injections per week... And is stronger then Tren Act
    because with the longer ester it builds to higher levels in your
    body after about 3-4 weeks... Honestly I got tired of injecting
    ED with Tren Act... Started to feel like a pin cushion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blah-blah
    why is it so f---in hard to find a source for tren e?
    i though i had one and they decided to stop selling
    i just can't win is it really that popular or is it that rarely made some info or pm's are welcome
    i know where to get some. AT MY HOUSE because i got plenty of it

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    Just follow the white rabbit.......................

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    Quote Originally Posted by buff87
    ... And is stronger then Tren Act
    because with the longer ester it builds to higher levels in your
    body after about 3-4 weeks... ...
    No...it's weaker, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooker
    No...it's weaker, actually.
    you beat me too it.

    tren a is stronger per ml than tren e

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    Bro not to disagree but consider I started using anabolics at 23 and
    I'm 35 now I have to say Tren Ent is one of the strongest drugs I've
    ever used... This isn't from what someone told me on a message board
    but from life experience, the sides are more intense and the hormone
    builds to much higher levels... Just look at the half-lifes, so the math
    and you'll see when i mean... Tren act is no match for what Tren Ent
    will do at 500mg per week... Not to mention the gains IMO are better...

    Quote Originally Posted by hooker
    No...it's weaker, actually.

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    Trick is finding a UG Lab that actually dosed it right and does not
    try to cut corners... I know the shorter ester hit you faster, but
    for me Tren Ent kicks in after 2 full weeks and by week 4-5 the
    gains are pretty impressive... I've never used any cycle where
    every week I was strong even after a 12-14 hour days at work
    and i was run down, but on Tren Ent stacked with Test I was
    stronger every single week no matter if i was run down or not...

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    Alright I gotta ask.... Who the hell is the white rabbit???

    Quote Originally Posted by buylongterm
    Just follow the white rabbit.......................

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    BTW where are my other Tren Ent guys
    that love the stuff to back me up...
    You know who you are...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooker
    No...it's weaker, actually.
    Do you mean it's stronger because you get more active hormore per 100 mg Hooker? Or is there somethong else? Many seem to belive that the enanthate give better gains over time because the trenbolones longer half-life. thanks bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by buff87
    Bro not to disagree but consider I started using anabolics at 23 and
    I'm 35 now I have to say Tren Ent is one of the strongest drugs I've
    ever used... This isn't from what someone told me on a message board
    but from life experience, the sides are more intense and the hormone
    builds to much higher levels... Just look at the half-lifes, so the math
    and you'll see when i mean... ...
    You are allowed to disagree...saying "not to disagree" isn't necessary....

    Do you know the blood levels that shorter esters provide, when compared to long esters? We're talking about blood plasma levels here, not the half-lives. They are different...and I think you are confusing them...the few mgs extra in shorter esters do not directly correlate in a proportionate mathmatical sence to the blood plasma levels attained.

    If you look at the chart in my deca profile, you'll see that the the phenylprop ester is compared to the decanoate ester (there is only a difference of mere mgs in terms of how much actual drug is in the drug...due to the ester length); the Phenylprop ester provided almost DOUBLE the blood plasma level of the decanoate ester. This level remained increased for almost a week.. By 2 weeks, even though the nandrolone decanoate ester demonstrated a much higher plasma level than the nandrolone phenylpropionate level, the net amount of both was way too low to be considered effective.

    Shorter esters provide a blood plasma level so much higher, it's not in any able to be correlated to the measly few extra mgs provided by the shorter ester length.


    The Journal of Pharmacology And Experimental Therapeutics, Vol 281, No. 1; 93-102, 1997.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooker
    You are allowed to disagree...saying "not to disagree" isn't necessary....

    Do you know the blood levels that shorter esters provide, when compared to long esters? We're talking about blood plasma levels here, not the half-lives. They are different...and I think you are confusing them...the few mgs extra in shorter esters do not directly correlate in a proportionate mathmatical sence to the blood plasma levels attained.

    If you look at the chart in my deca profile, you'll see that the the phenylprop ester is compared to the decanoate ester (there is only a difference of mere mgs in terms of how much actual drug is in the drug...due to the ester length); the Phenylprop ester provided almost DOUBLE the blood plasma level of the decanoate ester. This level remained increased for almost a week.. By 2 weeks, even though the nandrolone decanoate ester demonstrated a much higher plasma level than the nandrolone phenylpropionate level, the net amount of both was way too low to be considered effective.

    Shorter esters provide a blood plasma level so much higher, it's not in any able to be correlated to the measly few extra mgs provided by the shorter ester length.


    The Journal of Pharmacology And Experimental Therapeutics, Vol 281, No. 1; 93-102, 1997.
    Quote Originally Posted by big k.l.g
    Do you mean it's stronger because you get more active hormore per 100 mg Hooker? Or is there somethong else? Many seem to belive that the enanthate give better gains over time because the trenbolones longer half-life. thanks bro
    HOpefully the explanation above will answer your question as well.

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    I understand all that very well bro, but I'm also speaking from
    experience... I've used alot of Tren Act and I'm telling you Tren
    Ent is much stronger... I'll just leave it like this at least for me it
    is... I have never used a stronger androgen/anabolic drug... The
    results and what it did speak for themself...

    I know I'm not alone thinking this... On paper is one thing, real
    world experience is something else... If I speak of something I
    have done it and I know Tren Ent is not only a stronger drug,
    but also a better option with only 2x injections per week needed...
    Granted I ran it between 500-600mg per week and did have some
    sides i didn't like, but the gains were much better then anything
    I ever got from Tren Act... You post makes sense, I know what
    you speak of, but I also know what Tren Ent did for me and I can
    get anything I want and from not on the only choice for me with
    tren is going to be Tren Ent based on results...
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    Quote Originally Posted by buff87
    I understand all that very well bro, but I'm also speaking from
    experience... I've used alot of Tren Act and I'm telling you Tren
    Ent is much stronger... I'll just leave it like this at least for me it
    is... I have never used a stronger androgen/anabolic drug... The
    results and what it did speak for themself...

    I know I'm not alone thinking this... On paper is one thing, real
    world experience is something else... If I speak of something I
    have done it and I know Tren Ent is not only a stronger drug,
    but also a better option with only 2x injections per week needed...
    Granted I ran it between 500-600mg per week and did have some
    sides i didn't like, but the gains were much better then anything
    I ever got from Tren Act... You post makes sense, I know what
    you speak of, but I also know what Tren Ent did for me and I can
    get anything I want and from not on the only choice for me with
    tren is going to be Tren Ent based on results...
    Your original post asked me to do the math.

    I just did it for you, and showed that shorter esters provide a much higher blood plasma level of a given compound. Regardless of the "Build-up effect" of a longer ester.

    Now the argument has moved from "Do the math.." to "On paper is one thing..."

    In response to this new argument, I can only say that I've used both and find Tren A to be better.

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    That's fine bro... I know alot of experienced bros that have used both
    and perfer Tren Ent hands down to Tren Act... It's all a matter of what
    you perfer I guess... Just like some guys love Test Prop for 10-12 weeks
    and others perfer Test Ent or Cyp instead... I just personally think based
    on the half-lifes that the enanthate ester builds to much higher levels and
    this effect gains, at least for me... We're allowed to differ in opinion, no
    big deal...

    Quote Originally Posted by hooker
    Your original post asked me to do the math.

    I just did it for you, and showed that shorter esters provide a much higher blood plasma level of a given compound. Regardless of the "Build-up effect" of a longer ester.

    Now the argument has moved from "Do the math.." to "On paper is one thing..."

    In response to this new argument, I can only say that I've used both and find Tren A to be better.

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    BTW thanks for taking the time to post the info you did...
    It only adds to the board and helps everyone even more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooker
    HOpefully the explanation above will answer your question as well.
    K thanks buddy..but like buff said in the trenches exp is where it's at.

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    Also...keep in mind, if you read that study I posted as a reference (or my deca profile, which has the charts in it),you'll see that more highly concentrated gear produces a higher blood level of it...even when total mgs are the same. 4cc's of Deca (100mgs total; 25mgs/ml) produced lower blood plasma levels than 1cc of deca (100mgs total; 100mg/ml).

    If you used a more highly concentrated Tren E (200-250mgs/ml) as compared to an equal amount of Tren A (which is usually 75-100mgs/ml) per week, then you could get better results. Thats a possible explanation as to why you experienced better results. It's not the ester length, in this case, more likely its due to concentration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big k.l.g
    K thanks buddy..but like buff said in the trenches exp is where it's at.
    I was one of the first to try Tren E...how's that for in the trenches?

    (I was the first EVER to try Masteron E also...)

    When I sent the Tren E to be tested by SRCS, they said they had nothing to compare it to because it had never been tested before with that ester...ever!

    I'm in the trenches....believe me... I'm not FC*****t, F**z or someone like them...I try to combine practical experience with research as best as I can.

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    hooker, bro i know you have a solid rep, i know the boards well...
    i appreciate you taking the time to write profiles on certain drug
    compounds... i'm just sold on Tren Ent over Tren Act now until
    the day i die... For me it is that big of a difference... But everyone
    is different and what works best for me may not work the best for
    someone else... It's all good bro... Like I said that's for taking the
    time to post the info, that's what makes this a great board to be on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by buff87
    BTW thanks for taking the time to post the info you did...
    It only adds to the board and helps everyone even more...
    I agree this hooker dude in't to bad....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooker
    I was one of the first to try Tren E...how's that for in the trenches?

    (I was the first EVER to try Masteron E also...)

    When I sent the Tren E to be tested by SRCS, they said they had nothing to compare it to because it had never been tested before with that ester...ever!

    I'm in the trenches....believe me... I'm not FC*****t, F**z or someone like them...I try to combine practical experience with research as best as I can.
    Wow.....very cool Hooker....i'm looking forward to trying the drostanolone enanthate myself.

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    Thanks...I try...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooker
    Thanks...I try...
    you obviously dont have to try very hard. excellent information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100%NATURAL-theGH
    im hungry
    suck on one of theeeeze...


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    Yo bros...

    Yo hooker I agree with Buff87 on the issue that Tren E. seems to be far superior to Tren A.

    You are right that mg for mg you get more Trenbolone with the acetate

    BUT....

    (From my Steroid -guide!!)

    Esters Explained:
    Most Injectable steroids are esterfied --> Meaning they have an ester attached to them...
    Esters slow the release of the steroidmolecules...
    Not only does this mean you have to inject less frequently to keep blood levels stable then with the Base...
    The ester also affects the characteristics of the steroid, even though it has the same parentmolecule, this has three reasons:

    1) Some steroids benefit more from a steady release of molecules then from "shocking" the body by saturating all receptors at once
    2) The ester affects the Molecular weight of the total meaning longer esters mean less of the parent hormone
    (Test Undecanoate is the longest ester and will yield about 60% Testosteron per mg in contrast to Test Base which is 100%)
    3) Enzymes-interactions --> The body works with a Feedbacksystem, the higher the concentration the more the body will try to normalize the old situation (Homeostasis), that's why in theory Test Base is the worst for Gyno since the enormous amount of accumelating Test in the blood in a short period, will be compensated by an enormous amount of Estrogenproduction (which when turned to Estradiol will cause a hell of a lot of trouble).

    Look at point 1 and 3 and you will see why Tren Enantate seems to yield far better results...

    Greets
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    P.S.1 How did you experience Masteron Enantate?
    It seems pretty useless to me seeing Drostanolone is a DHT-compound and a DHT-compound with a longer ester is something which defies its purpose...
    DHT is best used for a "hardening" effect at the end of a cycle and ergogenetically speaking DHT works its magic best when it it is shortly active (so "schocking" the receptors) and looses its potency over time in the body.
    Just my Two cents...

    P.S.2 Have some "custommade" Clostebol Enantate here on hand

    P.S.3 Have you ever used Oxabolone Cypionate (I have some laying here as well) and how did you experience it?
    Last edited by kingofmasters; 11-13-2004 at 08:50 AM.

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    There are many leaps of logic, unfounded assumptions, and fallacies in there. I'm sorry, but I can't even begin to respond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooker
    There are many leaps of logic, unfounded assumptions, and fallacies in there. I'm sorry, but I can't even begin to respond.
    By all means do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by buff87
    hooker, bro i know you have a solid rep, i know the boards well...
    ..
    Don't go on rep...go on what I produce currently. I can name several mods who have good reps and who are mods on 5+ boards, and they are horrible sources of information. Just lazy and content with their reps. Reps...are as good as your last post...IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooker
    Don't go on rep...go on what I produce currently. I can name several mods who have good reps and who are mods on 5+ boards, and they are horrible sources of information. Just lazy and content with their reps. Reps...are as good as your last post...IMO.
    Very true and solid...

    But still I'm waiting for your insight and criticism om my story....

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    Very true... I should have added I know from your rep you know
    what you're talking about too... Very good info on this post bro...

    Quote Originally Posted by hooker
    Don't go on rep...go on what I produce currently. I can name several mods who have good reps and who are mods on 5+ boards, and they are horrible sources of information. Just lazy and content with their reps. Reps...are as good as your last post...IMO.

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