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    CanadianBacon is offline Junior Member
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    Unhappy Cycle 1!!! MASS???or WASTE???

    undefinedundefinedI have on hand 10ml of test C. at 200ml a cc, and was thinking of getting another bottle to make it an even 400ml a week. This is my first cycle.
    Nolvadex 20mg throughout cycle and PCT.
    Clomid at 300mg for day one, 100mg for a week, then 2 more weeks at 50 mg.
    Thinking adding HCG on final 2 weeks of PCT, with clen .

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    6"1
    200lbs
    18% Bodyfat

    I am an ecto/mesmo that has been training for a few years but disiplined for half a year, put on some meat and now I want to push myself to 220lbs with under 10% bodyfat by May. My diet is clean! With plenty of protein 250g. and carbs 3000-4000 cals a day. what is an average gain with the above cycle, considering my diet and training is good??? I'm thinking of up to 20lbs and keeping 15. How can I gain more on my cycle???

    How long after PCT can I gain naturally again???

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    I would go 500 a week for12 weeks works nice for me
    400would be the lowest I would go
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    Geeeezer???

    500mg hey? How about 600mg. I also have 100 tabs of dbol 5mg. Would 600mg give me a noticeably more amount of gain over 4or500mg??? I really am wanting only one cycle. And I have only 6months to put on over 20 pounds of muscle. My goal anyways. Or maybe add deca to the mix??? I know its a lot for a first cycle, but I always hear that you don't gain like you do on your first so why not optimize my virgin steroid state to achieve my goals. What do you guys think??? Can you share personal experiences and gains on first cycle???

    Thanks.

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    I'd do 600mg/w if test and the dbol at 35 mg/d for first 3 weeks.

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    CanadianBacon is offline Junior Member
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    Thumbs up 600 hey?

    what difference in gains from 400 upping it to 600 could i make??? Will there be much difference??? Would 20mg a day of nolvadex do the trick to stop gyno?

    Thanx! Keep helpin me out guys!

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    never know...

    you never know for sure if a little more test is going to give you more gains... especially for a first cycle. i'd stick with 500mg if i were you. the hcg is probably overkill but if you can afford it, do it.

    good luck bro.

    A.A.

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    Thanx for the input, how were your first cycles in terms of what was used, how long, and cycle results, gains kept???

    P.S. I feel like a 2 year old asking so many **** questions!

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    Add D-bol to the cycle, it will keep you motivated and you will start gaining alot of weight till the d-bol kicks in, good luck.

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    35mg of dbol for 4 wks to lickstart, id keep the test at 500mg as ur a 1st timer and u dont kno how ur body wil react to the extra test

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    I would only do one compound on your cycle..
    That way you have any problem's you will know what it is from

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    I would stick with 500mg a wk 2wkly for 12wks of test, and do 35mg dbol for the first 4 wks,
    dont over do it...you will gain

    HM

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    CanadianBacon is offline Junior Member
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    Thanks, I think I'll do 400mg of tes c. for 10 weeks. But I only have 100 5mg dbols, I was thinking of going at 25mg of dbol from week 1-3. Is the dbol worth it???

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