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    Please Critique My Cycle

    Im thinking of doing the following for my first proper cycle.

    My cycle history is, 2x dbol only cycles at 25mg/ED, this was before i got clued up on here.

    My Goal: to get a bigger for summer, i want to run a cutting cycle during summer, but thats ages away as winter has only just started.

    Cycle:
    Week 1-5: 40mg Dbol (taken every day, 2 hours apart)
    Week 1-20: 700mg Test Enan a week (350x2)
    Week 1-20: Novladex 20mg/day

    PCT

    Week 20-23: 100mg Clomid/ED (first day is 300mg)
    Week 20-23 Bovladex 20mg/day

    I welcome your contructive advice and help

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    Personally, I believe in running as little gear as possible for your first cycle. I would suggest only 500mg of Test/week for 12-14 weeks if you want a longer cycle. Trust me you will blow up on 500mg/week your first time out the gates and you won't tap your receptors. Next time you will be good with 700mg/week.

    Also, read up on PCT. Clomid should start about 20 days after your last Test E injection.

    Otherwise it looks good bro. Keep us posted.

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    Five month cycle seems excessive. If you have only done oral only why are you starting at 700mg of test per week? Give yourself room to grow, try 500mg per week and for 12 weeks. If you do not want to listen and decide to go 20 weeks get some hcg or recovery will be a bitch.

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    20 weeks the first time is a LONG time. Your natural test production will shut down 100%. Meso is right, recovery will be a SOB. Stick with no more than 14 weeks, 12 being ideal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-money
    Personally, I believe in running as little gear as possible for your first cycle. I would suggest only 500mg of Test/week for 12-14 weeks if you want a longer cycle. Trust me you will blow up on 500mg/week your first time out the gates and you won't tap your receptors. Next time you will be good with 700mg/week.

    Also, read up on PCT. Clomid should start about 20 days after your last Test E injection.

    Otherwise it looks good bro. Keep us posted.

    T

    actually pct for test enanthate starts 14 days after last injection

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobbythedonkey
    Im thinking of doing the following for my first proper cycle.

    My cycle history is, 2x dbol only cycles at 25mg/ED, this was before i got clued up on here.

    My Goal: to get a bigger for summer, i want to run a cutting cycle during summer, but thats ages away as winter has only just started.

    Cycle:
    Week 1-5: 40mg Dbol (taken every day, 2 hours apart)
    Week 1-20: 700mg Test Enan a week (350x2)
    Week 1-20: Novladex 20mg/day

    PCT

    Week 20-23: 100mg Clomid/ED (first day is 300mg)
    Week 20-23 Bovladex 20mg/day

    I welcome your contructive advice and help


    seeing as how this is your real first cycle.... i would run 500mg/week of test e @ 12 weeks.

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    D*mn!! Whoa, 20 weeks is a long time for a first inject cycle bro. I wouldn't stretch it more than 14. And definitely drop your test levels from 700mg.
    Wow. I just realized that I've basically just repeated everyone else so I guess I'll be going now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by w_rballs
    actually pct for test enanthate starts 14 days after last injection
    My mistake...I stand corrected.

    T

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    I hope you listen to these guys. 20 weeks of test e at 700mg is not a beginner cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w_rballs
    actually pct for test enanthate starts 14 days after last injection
    I agree with W PCT 14 days after last Test E inj.

    I would run at 500mg per week and run it for 12. You will explode bro..

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    YEah, too much test, for too much time, plus the dbol at 40mg could be taken down to 30mg for four weeks to be on the safe side.

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    ** UPDATED USING ADVICE **

    i have changed my cycle to the following taking into account advice and help given by you bro's

    Cycle:
    Week 1-5: 40mg Dbol (taken every day, 2 hours apart)
    Week 1-12: 500mg Test E a week (250x2)
    Week 1-12: Novladex 20mg/day

    PCT:
    Week 15-19: 100mg Clomid/ED (first day is 300mg)
    Week 15-19: Novladex 20mg/day
    Week 1-10: Milk Thistle (to help liver recover)

    is 1 month long enough to run PCT ?
    Last edited by nobbythedonkey; 11-17-2004 at 09:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobbythedonkey
    ** UPDATED USING ADVICE **

    i have changed my cycle to the following taking into account advice and help given by you bro's

    Cycle:
    Week 1-5: 40mg Dbol (taken every day, 2 hours apart)
    Week 1-12: 500mg Test E a week (250x2)
    Week 1-12: Novladex 20mg/day

    PCT:
    Week 15-19: 100mg Clomid/ED (first day is 300mg)
    Week 15-19: Novladex 20mg/day
    Week 1-10: Milk Thistle (to help liver recover)

    is 1 month long enough to run PCT ?

    pct setup looks good. however u might want to consider throwing in some femara throughout cycle @ 1.25mg/EOD to stop bloat

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    Looks much better, I think you are good to go.

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    throw in some creatine and trib for PCT and ur cycle looks perfect

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigswiftos
    throw in some creatine and trib for PCT and ur cycle looks perfect
    ill give that a try , iv never thought about throwing creatine into a cycle before as it doesn't really work for me.

    now its been a while since i last visited but what is trib short for ???

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    tribulas u nutcase

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigswiftos
    tribulas u nutcase

    i now feel like a right nob head

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    ** UPDATED AGAIN USING ALL ADVICE **


    Cycle:
    Week 1-5: 40mg Dbol (taken every day, 2 hours apart)
    Week 1-12: 500mg Test E a week (250x2)
    Week 1-12: Novladex 20mg/day

    PCT:
    Week 12-19: Creatine
    Week 15-19: 100mg Clomid/ED (first day is 300mg)
    Week 15-19: Novladex 20mg/day
    Week 15-19: Tibulas
    Week 1-10: Milk Thistle (to help liver recover)


    i wanna start this cycle after Xmas, am i ok to purchase the stuff now and keep it
    in my safe untill i am ready to use it.
    Last edited by nobbythedonkey; 11-18-2004 at 09:08 AM.

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    u can get tribulas from supplement websites online, its not very expensive, id start the creatine straight after ur last test shot not 3 weeks after

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigswiftos
    u can get tribulas from supplement websites online, its not very expensive, id start the creatine straight after ur last test shot not 3 weeks after
    i have edited my post to show your help

    i want to get this cycle dead perfect for maximum keep gains and recovery

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    cycle looks good to go, id hav the nolva at 10mg ED and if u encounter probs bump to 20mg whilst doing ur cycle but keep it at 20mg in PCT, also why u doin 100mg clomid everyday and not the 300/100/50 split?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigswiftos
    cycle looks good to go, id hav the nolva at 10mg ED and if u encounter probs bump to 20mg whilst doing ur cycle but keep it at 20mg in PCT, also why u doin 100mg clomid everyday and not the 300/100/50 split?
    what would you recommend the clomind be layed out like ?

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    300mg day one, 100mg ED week 1 then 50mg ED week 2, but id keep it like that 100mg ed as iv just been reading pheedns PCT and people have had good results wit it, search pheednos pct

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigswiftos
    300mg day one, 100mg ED week 1 then 50mg ED week 2, but id keep it like that 100mg ed as iv just been reading pheedns PCT and people have had good results wit it, search pheednos pct

    it is better to do the 300mg/day 1 then 100mg/ED for the next 29 days

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    it sounds like it,been researching and people hav had etter results it seems

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    cool so im good to go, what about buying the stuff now and using it in a few months, storing it in my safe

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    get all the stuff for ur cycle beforehand, dont start ur cycle then think u will get ur clomid 1month down the line as u might not b able to, id get all ur 'equipment' now and store it yeah, as long as the gear isnt already old and close to passing exp. dates ur good to go,however the gear being just there u might wana start ur cycle sooner than u planned,stick to a plan and dont rush into things

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    * UPDATED FINAL DRAFT - SEEING SOURCE TONIGHT **


    Cycle:
    Week 1-5: 40mg Dbol (taken every day, 2 hours apart)
    Week 1-12: 500mg Test E a week (250x2)
    Week 1-12: Novladex 20mg/day

    PCT:
    Week 12-19: Creatine
    Week 15-19: 100mg Clomid/ED (first day is 300mg)
    Week 15-19: Novladex 20mg/day
    Week 15-19: Tibulas
    Week 1-10: Milk Thistle (to help liver recover)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobbythedonkey
    * UPDATED FINAL DRAFT - SEEING SOURCE TONIGHT **


    Cycle:
    Week 1-5: 40mg Dbol (taken every day, 2 hours apart)
    Week 1-12: 500mg Test E a week (250x2)
    Week 1-12: Novladex 20mg/day

    PCT:
    Week 12-19: Creatine
    Week 15-19: 100mg Clomid/ED (first day is 300mg)
    Week 15-19: Novladex 20mg/day
    Week 15-19: Tibulas
    Week 1-10: Milk Thistle (to help liver recover)


    i dont know how u set the numebr up( 1-12 being ending at the end week 11 or ending at the end of week 12?)
    but pct for test enanthate starts 2 weeks after last shot

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    id lay off the nolva ed, it can hinder gains remember,just have it on hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by w_rballs
    i dont know how u set the numebr up( 1-12 being ending at the end week 11 or ending at the end of week 12?)
    but pct for test enanthate starts 2 weeks after last shot
    i end cycle at the end of week 12 and start PCT at the start of week 15 so weeks 13 & 14 are my inbetween cycle and pct weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by map200uk
    id lay off the nolva ed, it can hinder gains remember,just have it on hand
    ill do what you say, you have given me valuable advice in the past and im very greatful

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobbythedonkey
    ill do what you say, you have given me valuable advice in the past and im very greatful

    here is my thinking behind nolva ED, if u are gyno prone and even if u arent its still better to take it ED in my opinion. i would rather not gain a few pounds than have gyno anyday. so what would u prefer? bitch tits or ending your cycle @ 225 lbs. instead of 227lbs?

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    Definately the bitch tits....wait, on me?? Nevermind...

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