ultimate cycle.....comments plz

age/stats/history/goal: 24, 185 muscular pounds 5'8 hight. 12% fat. cycles 3-4 times before.....lifting few years but very on and off. goal is to be at about 205-210 pounds 7-9% fat by the end of the cycle.
here it is:

1-20 > sustanon karachi 250mg every 5 days
1-4> finaplix 50mg pd
1-4> anavar 40mg pd
5-7> clen
9-12>finaplix 50mg pd
9-12>winstrol 50mg pd
13-15> clen
17-22>finaplix 75mg pd
17-22>winstrol 50mg pd
17-22>anavar 50mg pd
23-24> 1000iu hcg eod
23-25>clen
23-24> nolvadex 30mg pd
25-27> clomid 150-50mg pd

diet: absolutely perfect!
workouts: 3-4 times per week lifting.....3 times cardio per week.

reason for not using anabolics besides the test. every single week = because i dont want to weaken the total anabolic effects later on in the cycle, want to keep receptors fresh by introducing anabolics every 4 weeks and each time at slightly higher doses than the last.
again goal is to be around 205-210 (remeber i am 185 when i start the cycle)

does everything look good? do you think this is a bad idea?

sust has to be run at least every other day, and what the he!! is the finaplix 50mg pd, reasearch others past cycles

you jacked the fina and the winny, dont run it 4 weeks on then off then on, thats useless. Change it to 75mg ed for 8-10 weeks for fina and 50mg ed for 4-6 for winny. I would change this cycle to
75mg prop Ed 1-4 or dbol 50mg 1-4
500mg test 1-10
75mg fina ED 2-10
winny 50mg 8-12
pct 12-15

also, what cycle experience do you have?

When you say fina 50 mg pd how are you taking that

Thats a pretty bad cycle, wich have bben your other cycles, do some research to find a better cycle.

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Originally Posted by redwizza

age/stats/history/goal: 24, 185 muscular pounds 5'8 hight. 12% fat. cycles 3-4 times before.....lifting few years but very on and off. goal is to be at about 205-210 pounds 7-9% fat by the end of the cycle.
here it is:

1-20 > sustanon karachi 250mg every 5 days
1-4> finaplix 50mg pd
1-4> anavar 40mg pd
5-7> clen
9-12>finaplix 50mg pd
9-12>winstrol 50mg pd
13-15> clen
17-22>finaplix 75mg pd
17-22>winstrol 50mg pd
17-22>anavar 50mg pd
23-24> 1000iu hcg eod
23-25>clen
23-24> nolvadex 30mg pd
25-27> clomid 150-50mg pd

diet: absolutely perfect!
workouts: 3-4 times per week lifting.....3 times cardio per week.

reason for not using anabolics besides the test. every single week = because i dont want to weaken the total anabolic effects later on in the cycle, want to keep receptors fresh by introducing anabolics every 4 weeks and each time at slightly higher doses than the last.
again goal is to be around 205-210 (remeber i am 185 when i start the cycle)

does everything look good? do you think this is a bad idea?

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Bad idea!

Not a flame, but with your stats and the fact that you've done 3-4 cycles and you're only 185 with 12% bf (not very impressive for 4 cycles under your belt) I doubt you diet is "absolutely perfect"

And i definately think doing a **** load of drugs is not the answer to reaching you goals!

No need for an "ultimate cycle" - I think with a "perfect diet" and if you think it's necassary, a moderate test cycle would be a better way to reach your goals!

Good luck!

so,your looking to put on about 25lbs and drop your bf down 5%,,,Goodfukinluck...BULK OR CUT one or the other.it isIMPOSSABLE to do both at once.

change the title bro ultimate cycle does not match this cycle. :lol:

I think your training has been more off than on four cycles? your only 185 at 12% you can surpass that naturally more training less dreaming about what perfect drugs to take

i think you should take the advice of the bros my friend they all got a point, altho the only thing i disagree with is "sus must be run EoD" people have had good results using maybe only 500mg per week, remember that everyone is different

Its not the amount, its the timing , on sust your blodd levels will fluctuate greatly untill later in the cycle cause of the fast acting ester of prop and phenylprop, inject 125 mgs every other day will still give you 500 mgs a week and will keep your blood levels more consistant than only every five days

couldnt have put it better myself, big

that cycle is a mess
eq 400mg weeks 1-5
sust weeks 1-15 500mg
tren weeks 1-8 atleast 50 mg everyday 75 is ideal
weeks 9-15 winstrol 100mg 4-5 times a weeks
30mg a nova a day
clomid 300mg first day 200mg second day, 100mg 3rd day,50mg for 2-3 weeks
starting week 6-9 5000 iu's of hcg broken into 3 injections a week for 3 weeks
starting week 12-14 5000iu's of hcg broken into 3 injections a week for 3 weeks

**** anavar not worth the money, barely noticeable results, tren will work 100 times better
clen dose not mix well with or after test/ you'll lose alot of your gains
that will help you cut you b/f to about 9% with a good diet and get you to atleast 200lbs

eq is weeks 1-15

start clomid 14 days after last sust injection