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11-17-2004, 04:51 PM #1
Am I dying?
2nd cycle 5 weeks into it of test prop and fina. scared as hell and gonna stop my blood work said this someone help me decipher it please
White blood cell count 18.0 abnormal
platelets 676 abnormal
ast 60 alt 63 cretaine kinase 1220
your liver enzymes were found to be abnormal. you need to have your CBC and LFTs rechecked.
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11-17-2004, 04:57 PM #2New Member
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White Blood Cells high=infection usually
platelets high= not that unusual
ck high=muscle damage (they use it sometimes to diagnose heart attacks).
If I had my lab book here I could tell you more.
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11-17-2004, 04:59 PM #3
what about the liver values being abnormal?
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11-17-2004, 05:04 PM #4Member
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thats cuz your ears are big and you squint with one eye.
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11-17-2004, 05:05 PM #5
that would be a funny joke if i wasnt here scared ****less waiting for a serious answer to my question
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11-17-2004, 05:05 PM #6Member
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naw JK normally liver values will be elevated due to many things. How much gear are you doing a week?
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11-17-2004, 05:08 PM #7
2 cc of test prop and find daily
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11-17-2004, 05:12 PM #8Member
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well I wouldn't worry too much it seems slightly elevated - are you supplmenting with creatine at all?
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11-17-2004, 05:23 PM #9
no creatine. just gluatamine
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11-17-2004, 05:37 PM #10
MASS, it's not that high...
I am looking at my own report at it specifies that < 40 is the "normal" range for ALT, but mine has been much higher in the bast due to antibiotics use, just keep an eye on it and if it doesn't go down after the cycle I would start to worry. ALT is an indication of liver inflammation and it's importance shouldn't be downplayed - I am just relating my experience and what *my* doctor has told me.
do not freak out.
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11-17-2004, 05:38 PM #11
when I say much higher... some people with liver disease have ALT in the 1,000s from what I understand. yours seem "slightly" elevated.
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11-17-2004, 05:42 PM #12
well i guess my question is should i finish my cycle? I got 1 and a half bottles of test prop left as well as equal amount of fina. Shooting up ED. I dont wanna take even a 1% risk of having permanent damage as my health is by far superior to any muscle growth i might see even if might look like arnold post cycle.
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11-17-2004, 06:01 PM #13
You are facing a personal decision.
I don't know how carefully you have chosen your words, but if you don't want a 1% risk, I would not do steroids . Concerning steroids, any time you do anything you have a risk for permanent heath damage. You are creating scar tissue where you inject. You are putting questionable products in your body. Your blood pressure, liver values, and whole hormonal balance is being modified. You have empirical evidence that your liver values are raised - there is a risk of damage if they never come down. But, risks are a fact of life.
With all this said, I think most people would continue and finish out the cycle. I personally don't think your risk of "permanent" damage is high by any means, but there is no such thing as a cycle without any risk whatsoever. And I certainly wouldn't outsource responsibility for your own health on a public message board
Keep an eye on yourself, listen to your body, and get checked up (blood work) regularly.
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11-17-2004, 07:04 PM #14
bump
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11-17-2004, 07:10 PM #15
that decision is up to you bro, theres always risks involved so its a personal decision one must make
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11-17-2004, 07:52 PM #16
but my question is by looking at those values i have posted does anyone know how bad it is? Becuase the doctor has just put abnormal on everythign.
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11-17-2004, 08:01 PM #17
Is that you in the picture? If it is, you have some damaged done already lol, go see a doc and ask him, good luck
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11-17-2004, 08:41 PM #18
Thanks For The Help Bud!
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11-18-2004, 02:53 AM #19Banned
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pm me and ill explain it to you, i have a master's in nursing
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11-18-2004, 07:51 AM #20Originally Posted by Dimes
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11-18-2004, 08:27 AM #21Member
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MASStermind, how do you feel? do you feel as though something is out of whack mentally or physically (aside from thinking you're gonna die)?
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11-18-2004, 08:58 AM #22
MASStermind, who is that in your avatar...this person is very scary looking.
Last edited by catabolic kid; 11-18-2004 at 11:43 AM.
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11-18-2004, 09:01 AM #23
i had same thing with high liver values. it just means that there is alot of protein in your body or being processed by your liver
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11-18-2004, 10:26 AM #24
I would not stop your cycle unless there is a hudge spike in your normal liver values. I always have an elevated ALT during a cycle and even more if I add an Oral such as
D-bol. You can add "MilkThistle" to your sup's @ 1000mg daily and this will help you liver. Also drink at least a gallon of water every day. I also add cranberry ex.. for Kidney health and Saw Palmietto for prostate.
...V
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11-18-2004, 10:34 AM #25
My liver was all jacked up while I was on tren . If I didn't constanlty drink water my piss would be dark orange. Everything went back to normal after my cycle.
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11-18-2004, 05:04 PM #26Originally Posted by Pork Chop
just slight pain in my side near my kidneys or MY KIDNEYS
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11-18-2004, 05:51 PM #27
relax....your mind is a powerful thing...you can make it worse than it is by thinking it is worse.
go see a doc....ask him if your life is in danager
if it is....STOP...
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