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    2nd cycle please critique

    i am gonna start my 2nd cycle in a couple of months i want to still put on more weight than i am at now 5'8 175-180 and i also want to get alot better cuts.

    i heard equipose is good foor newbies but i also hear its 50mg/ml only. Is there anything that has a better ratio? I was also wondering what test i should take cyponiate or enanthate . I have read that they are very similar. I was planning on taking dbol to kickstart also. My plan was for about a 10 week cycle and of course ill have anti e's and clomids ready.

    Please let me know what you think of the as i want to use and tell me what are the best dosages for a beggineer

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    Boldenon 200 is EQ @ 200mg per ml. It's a TT product. Your cycle sounds good. How many mgs per week? Map it out for us and let us know how it turns out for you.

    I'd do something like 400mg test/300-400mg EQ per week, weeks 1-10, and 30 mg dbol for the first 4 weeks.

    Just PM D00fy if you need expert advice or run into problems.

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    50 mg/ml isnt the only eq out there ,there is 200 mg/ml.
    if this is your 2nd cycle im ussuming you have diet and training down a nice bulk cycle using the following
    wk 1-4 dbol 30-50 mg ed
    wk 1 -8 test (your choice) 400-600 mg wk
    wk 1-8eq 400-600 mg wk
    wk 8-11 test prop 50-100 mg ed
    clomid 2 days out
    im not sure how cut you will get ,but if done right you will get beefed very nicely.

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    50mg/ml is the most inconvenient one out there. it's too dilute, meaning too much volume for injection. 4 plates and meth both have good cycles for you.

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    doesn't test have alot of side effect like.If you want to get cut up I think this is a bad choice.

    For the bodybuilder, the water retention that goes hand in hand with
    Testosterone enanthate cuts both ways. Certainly, one gets rapidly
    massive and strong; however, one's reflected image after a few weeks
    often shows completely flat, watery, and puffy muscles. The muscles
    appear as if they have been pumped up with air to new dimensions, yet
    during flexing nothing happens. Those who do not believe this should
    bother to go visit the so-called "bodybuilding champions" during the
    OFF-season when these exaggerated quantities of "Testo" come in. A
    look at the now defunct bodybuilding magazine WBF makes it even
    clearer. An additional problem when taking Testosterone enanthate is
    that the conversion rate to estrogen is very high. This, oil one hand,
    leads the body lo store more fat; on the other hand, feminization
    symptoms (gynecomastia ) are not unusual. However, it must be clearly
    stated that this depends on the athlete's predisposition. By all
    means, there are athletes who even with 1000 mg+/week do not show
    feminization symptoms or fat deposits and who suffer very low water
    retention. Others, however, develop pain in their nipples by simply
    looking at a Testoviron -Depot ampule. Yet the additional intake of
    Nolvadex and Proviron should be considered at a dosage level of 1000
    mg+/week. As already mentioned, Testo is effective for everyone,
    whether a beginner or Mr. Olympia. Testosterone enanthate also
    strongly promotes the regeneration process. This leads to distinctly
    shorter overcompensation phases, an increased feeling of well-being,
    and a distinct energy increase. This is also the reason why several
    athletes are able to work out twice daily for several hours six times
    a week and continue to build up mass and strength. Those who can work
    out again ,two hours after a hard leg workout know that testo works.
    Athletes who take Testosterone enanthate report an excessively strong
    pump effect during training. This "steroid pump" is attributed lo an
    increased blood volume with a higher oxygen supply and a higher
    quantity of red blood cells. Those who take mega doses of Testosterone
    enanthate will already feel an enormous pump in their upper thighs and
    calves when climbing stairs. Despite this we recommend that steroid
    novices stay away from all testosterone compounds. To make it very
    clear: Those who have never taken steroids do not yet need any
    testosterone and should wait until later when the "weaker" steroids
    begin to have little effect. For the more advanced, Testosterone
    enanthate can either be taken alone or in combination with oilier

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