2nd Cycle Advice - Haven't Cycled in almost 2 years

**BluEyedClubr** · 11-24-2004, 03:45 PM

Ok - I'm finally gettin ready to cycle again

- Haven't dun so since early Spring 2003 when I did:

Denkall T-400 / QV Decca 300 for 10wks and finished it with Winny 50mg ED.

My question is here's what I have to work with from my source as far as prices and what he has:

test prop 100 - 60
test cyp 200 - 60
test enenthate 250 - 60
deca 300 - 110
stan 50 (winnie) - 140
oxavet (anavar ) pills -180 for 100 pills
reforvit simple (dbol pills) - 400 for 1000 pills

I was thinking of doing @ 750mg Test wk / 450-600mg Decca wk for 10 weeks and either finishing with Anavar or Winnie. I've heard mixed reviews with Anavar - but to be honest I didn't want to do winny now and then again in summertime. Would winny loose its affectiveness in summer if I used it now and then??

(Of course I'm doing Nolv and Clomids - That's a no Brainer and just didn't mention)

It would be best to incorporate all 3 Tests right? But what ratio should I use of each? ALSO - if I'm going to use Prop is it going to show a huge difference if I add DBol into the first 4wks?

My stats are @ 6'6 and @ 238lb. My body fat % is in mid/lower teens right now.

I'm ready to start this cycle within 2 weeks... I can't wait!! I've been drooling to do another one for almost 2 years!!! Some other things in life have held me back such as surgeries....

Thanks guys/gals.... !!

**Swifto** · 11-24-2004, 03:49 PM

u wanting to gain mass or quality gains?

**BluEyedClubr** · 11-24-2004, 03:52 PM

Honestly - I dun wanna look like a bloated mess. In the summer I'm going to do a clean cycle around June throughout summer to stay hard... I understand I will loose some but don't want what I gain to be TOTALLY water weight... does that make sense to ya?

**Swifto** · 11-24-2004, 03:58 PM

yeah.....stay away from the dbol then and do test 750mg/wk for 12weeks deca 400mg/wk and kickstart wit prop ED weeks 1 - 4 to really get the quality going

**BluEyedClubr** · 11-24-2004, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by bigswiftos

yeah.....stay away from the dbol then and do test 750mg/wk for 12weeks deca 400mg/wk and kickstart wit prop ED weeks 1 - 4 to really get the quality going

So what kinda of numbers should I run with the test to =750mg??

How much Cyp? How much Prop? How much Enth?

***BajanBastard*** · 11-24-2004, 04:33 PM

Prop at 100mg ED should suffice. What did your first cycle consist of BTW?

**BluEyedClubr** · 11-24-2004, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

Prop at 100mg ED should suffice. What did your first cycle consist of BTW?

My first cycle was just

400mg Denkall T400 wk
300 mg Decca QV wk

Both were ran for 10 weeks.

Then Winny from like week 7 - 12

**Swifto** · 11-24-2004, 05:07 PM

600 test with 400deca, prop 75-100mg ED

**Swifto** · 11-24-2004, 05:08 PM

i wouldnt go as high as 750mg test for ur 2nd cycle, uv also been out for 2 years

***BajanBastard*** · 11-24-2004, 05:14 PM

Did you get bigger in that 2 yr time span? You and I are in the same boat. My first cycle was over 2 years ago, I have the second one planned out it's heavy though would you like to see it? 600mg test is fine.

**BluEyedClubr** · 11-24-2004, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

Did you get bigger in that 2 yr time span? You and I are in the same boat. My first cycle was over 2 years ago, I have the second one planned out it's heavy though would you like to see it? 600mg test is fine.

I've gotten stronger actually but not really bigger. When I was on cycle last time I was b/w 245 - 250 lb. Now I've been sitting around 235-240lb for quite a while.

**BluEyedClubr** · 11-24-2004, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by bigswiftos

600 test with 400deca, prop 75-100mg ED

Sorry if I sound stupid here... I'm just a lil confused.

You are saying 600mg Test a wk. But then you are telling me to do 75mg-100mg Prop for first 4 weeks right? How much Cyp/Enth should I be doing during those first four weeks? Doesn't it take like 5 weeks for Cyp n Enth to kick in?? Sorry if I sound dumb..