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    +++NEED advise......

    Hey its paddler here,
    well, need advise on this cycle upcoming. Heres my stats.

    -only done 3 cycles of d-bol only(needle pussy here)
    i got good results and it actually stayed with me.
    -6'2"
    -190lbs
    -6pack
    -mid 20's

    heres what have come up with and plan to take (tell me what u think)

    1ml of deca
    1ml of equipoise
    1ml of test cypo
    1ml of B-12 (vitamin)
    10-20mg/d of nolvadex
    clomid post cycle

    looking to gain some mass- are these dosages enough? if not what should i bump up and where. remember this is my first injectable cycle and i don't know why it took me this long to do it. thanks for the input,,,,,

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    ok we need to konw mg/ml strength.... some eq comes 50mg/ml some comes 200mg/ml some is evern 400mg/ml.

    give us that info then we can help more

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    whoops sorry

    here:

    test cyp:200mg
    deca : 300mg
    equi: 200mg

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    choose either the deca (bulker) or EQ (cutter) but keep the test.

    example:

    wk 1-12 test cyp 500mg
    wk 1-11 deca 400mg
    wk 1-15 nolva 10mg ed
    start pct 3 weeks after last cyp injection

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    Quote Originally Posted by Consistency
    choose either the deca (bulker) or EQ (cutter) but keep the test.

    example:

    wk 1-12 test cyp 500mg
    wk 1-11 deca 400mg
    wk 1-15 nolva 10mg ed
    start pct 3 weeks after last cyp injection
    <---------NICE!

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    ok that sounds good, but what if i did:

    weeks 1-10

    300mg deca
    200mg test cyp
    200mg equi
    10mg nolva ed
    pct 3 weeks after

    how does that sound? cuz thats all i've got enough for....what do you think of that as a gainer?

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    you need to have the test above the deca . 200mg of eq a week is a waste and needs be run at least 12 weeks. dont do a cycle if you dont have enough $ why just do a crappy cycle when you can save and do a good 1. if anything drop the eq or deca and get more of the rest.

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    you need to up the test to about 500mg per week..

    EQ and Deca both increase colligen synthesis rather well.. so taking them together is great for the ligs and tendons.. IMO you should kick up the eq to no less than 300mg per week... leave the deca the where it's at... This is a farily mild cycle and should leave you with very minimal sides.. btw, 10mg Nolva is probably not necessary.. Remember, you do need some estrogen in your body to function properly and so you can grow.. You might take 10mg of Nolva (half a pill) EOD..

    Also, If you don't have the money to do a proper cycle.. then hold off..save a bit more and do it right...

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    what if i add in 50mg of anadrol

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    drop the eq, increase the test. like jackman said, don't waste your time with a half a$$ cycle. if you don't have enough juice or money to get the juice, wait until you have it. always have enough for the whole cycle on hand, you never know when your source might run out or get busted, and you are left hangin in the middle of cycle with no juice.

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    id go with:
    wks 1-13 test cyp 500mg/week
    wks 1-12 eq 400mg/week
    wks 1-12 deca 400mg/week

    keep nolva on hand in case of gyno
    and pct 14 days after last test cyp injection.

    i would off on anadrol and maybe jumpstart the cycle with 30mg/dol ed for the 1st 4weeks.

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    that looks good or you could kickstart with a bombs

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    ok im going to keep my original cycle plans at 200mg, 300mg, and 200mgs and throw in the 50 mg of a bombs. i appreciate the input but if i go to those dosages i am going to blow up super quick. i am in the line of work where this dramatic size increase will not be acceptable. i slowly need to get bigger and then before i and them know it i'll be a good 20lbs heaver and no one suspects it. so do you think that if i do:

    test 200mg 10wks
    deca 300mg 10wks
    equi 200mg 10wks
    ana50 50mg ed 10wks
    nolva 10 mg ed 10wks
    pct after 3w after last injection

    while i'm eating right and lifting hard i could get atleast 20lbs? thanks again and let me know if that is an obtainable goal.

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    id at least bring the test up to 300 and end the deca at wk 9

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    why end the deca at week 9?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PADDLER
    ok im going to keep my original cycle plans at 200mg, 300mg, and 200mgs and throw in the 50 mg of a bombs. i appreciate the input but if i go to those dosages i am going to blow up super quick. i am in the line of work where this dramatic size increase will not be acceptable. i slowly need to get bigger and then before i and them know it i'll be a good 20lbs heaver and no one suspects it. so do you think that if i do:

    test 200mg 10wks
    deca 300mg 10wks
    equi 200mg 10wks
    ana50 50mg ed 10wks
    nolva 10 mg ed 10wks
    pct after 3w after last injection

    while i'm eating right and lifting hard i could get atleast 20lbs? thanks again and let me know if that is an obtainable goal.
    bro u need to have the test higher than everything else. th eq should b at 400mg/week to get full results and maybe run for 12 weeks.

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    if you dont want people to know your juicing ,then dont juice.you got a lot of sound advice here and you didnt change anything?what exactly was the question for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PADDLER
    ok im going to keep my original cycle plans at 200mg, 300mg, and 200mgs and throw in the 50 mg of a bombs. i appreciate the input but if i go to those dosages i am going to blow up super quick. i am in the line of work where this dramatic size increase will not be acceptable. i slowly need to get bigger and then before i and them know it i'll be a good 20lbs heaver and no one suspects it. so do you think that if i do:

    test 200mg 10wks
    deca 300mg 10wks
    equi 200mg 10wks
    ana50 50mg ed 10wks
    nolva 10 mg ed 10wks
    pct after 3w after last injection

    while i'm eating right and lifting hard i could get atleast 20lbs? thanks again and let me know if that is an obtainable goal.
    this is a horrible cycle bro....first of all, get rid of the eq.....you need to run eq at least 400mg a week for 11 to 12 weeks. do NOT take anadrol for 10 weeks.....limit it to about 4 or 5 weeks, 10 weeks is way too bad for you....and like everyone said, you need to keep your test higher than your deca....run your test at 400-500mg/week for 10 or 11 weeks. and end your deca one week shorter than your test......if you don't have enough to run it like we have told you to, then wait till you get more gear

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    youd want to end the deca at week 9 and run the anavar to 12 so the pcts line up

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    too much gear... what are your main goals of this cycle... with all that you WILL blow up super quick and you said you dont want that

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    my goal: is to keep a low dosage cycle, gain about 15lbs of solid gains. the low test and equi might just harden me up while the deca and 6weeks of 100mg abombs will slowly build me up. am i right or am i totally off?

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    you can easily gain 15 pounds off test alone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Consistency
    you can easily gain 15 pounds off test alone!
    i agree 100%

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