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Thread: BF before Cylce !!
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11-29-2004, 01:49 PM #1
BF before Cylce !!
I am just reading an article and it says : "Use Testosterone when body fat is on the lower side , not high. using test during time when bf is high means less ability to utilize the drug for mass building.it settles in your fat and remains active .... "
My question is : What is low BF you need to be before a test cylce ?( 10,9,8,7,6 .... ?)
What is the best BF before cycling below 10 ?
thanks
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11-29-2004, 01:56 PM #2Associate Member
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You should have low BF levels because adipose tissue/fat cells are the major producers of the aromatase enzyme. When you have an increase in aromatase enzyme, there is also a direct increase in the amount of testosterone converted to estrogen.
I would say 12% or less is ideal.
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11-29-2004, 02:04 PM #3
Now it is much clear
12% or less is ideal no need to be less than 9 % because i am actually at 9% ?
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11-29-2004, 02:05 PM #4Associate Member
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Not really. But the leaner, the better. Unless you are going into an all out mass cycle.
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11-29-2004, 04:06 PM #5Junior Member
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so, r u guys saying that I shouldn't start a cuttting cycle right now as I am @ 22 % bf: I know that it high but that is what I wanted to do-PUT on the WEIGHT, and now I am wanting to shed it off by middle of March or so: what do u think?
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11-29-2004, 04:24 PM #6Originally Posted by 1-jag
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11-29-2004, 04:29 PM #7Junior Member
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yeah I know bro. Sick huh? Well the good thing is is that I have the gear but do I need to take it now or what?
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11-29-2004, 05:08 PM #8Originally Posted by 1-jag
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11-29-2004, 05:17 PM #9
I started my cycle at 19%, have gained 20 pounds in my 1st three weeks, but do wich I would have started a at lower levels since my abs are beginning to disappear, so id say 15% or less.
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11-29-2004, 05:23 PM #10Junior Member
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what would say is a good bf% to be at to start a cycle?
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11-29-2004, 05:26 PM #11
12-15%
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11-29-2004, 05:31 PM #12Junior Member
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well, the good thing is is that I only need to focus right now on getting down 7-10 % from 22 % right? If this is so, then I will have to lose 14-20lbs, right?
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11-29-2004, 06:09 PM #13Junior Member
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lose the weight first I would get to the body fat you would like to be first then after the cycle you shouldn't have to cut much and worry about losing your hard earned gains go into your cycle in great shape looking good it will make for a great cycle
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11-29-2004, 06:38 PM #14Junior Member
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11-29-2004, 06:53 PM #15New Member
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You can drop to 10 or 12% with just diet, cardio and maybe some ECA. That way you can save your money for more goodies later.
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11-29-2004, 06:55 PM #16Junior Member
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man, I would love to see those results, but what kinds of cardio and how much? 5 days a week, etc???
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11-29-2004, 07:03 PM #17Junior Member
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Originally Posted by 1-jag
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11-29-2004, 07:04 PM #18
do 3-4 days a week in the morning on an empty stomach at 65% of ur max heart rate. for 45-60min. u need to get a good diet goin as well.
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11-29-2004, 07:06 PM #19
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11-29-2004, 07:08 PM #20Junior Member
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don't even worry about winstrol being taken either for the first 8 weeks of trying to get ripped?
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11-29-2004, 07:15 PM #21Originally Posted by 1-jag
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11-29-2004, 07:19 PM #22Junior Member
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winny wont help you just hold less water with it then test but it does nothing to help you get cut if your not cut already
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11-29-2004, 07:21 PM #23Junior Member
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bro, I',m not gonna lie. I'm kind of confused right now. do I need to just take eca stacks until I reach around 10 % FIRST< THEN start my cycle of prop,eq,winnie,nolva,etc? Or what? help LOL!!!
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11-29-2004, 07:22 PM #24
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11-29-2004, 07:22 PM #25Junior Member
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thanks crunch: so, I just need to just do cardio eat right and take some eca stacks?
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11-29-2004, 07:22 PM #26Originally Posted by crunchnpunch
and u really made no sense dont give advice when u yourself dont know what ur saying bro
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11-29-2004, 07:23 PM #27Junior Member
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do u think that I need to do 5 days a week cardio or 7 or what and how long?
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11-29-2004, 07:25 PM #28Junior Member
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juice, that is what I thought as well. I thought that the winnie would help me get to the single digits, then I could do a good cycle after that right?
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11-29-2004, 07:26 PM #29
i already told u this bro!!!
do 3-5 days a week of cardio in the morning on an empty stomach for 45 min at 65%of ur max heat rate. include weights at a low weight and high reps
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11-29-2004, 07:26 PM #30
also winny should be taken with test as it will shut ya down.
winny will harden muscles not help you cut
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11-29-2004, 07:29 PM #31Originally Posted by dive_kid
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11-29-2004, 07:29 PM #32
tycin has the right idea. **** the drugs and hit the cardio.
hard work will pay off
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11-29-2004, 07:30 PM #33Originally Posted by juiceinthehood
at 22% bf winny is usless IMO...
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11-29-2004, 07:30 PM #34Junior Member
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thanks tycin I had forgotten u had already posted that. how long in ur opinion will it take to get to aroiund 10-12% bf (as far as weeks are concerned?)
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11-29-2004, 07:30 PM #35
you wont show how cut ya are if you got a layer of fat over it.
you can have wicked abs but cant see them unless bf is low.
make sence?
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11-29-2004, 07:32 PM #36Originally Posted by 1-jag
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11-29-2004, 07:32 PM #37Junior Member
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well, I really know that I have somework to do. hopefully I can stay motivated by u guys to do it. can I get everybodies opinion on how long they think it will take to get down to around 10-12% bf (in weeks?)
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11-29-2004, 07:34 PM #38Junior Member
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yeah dive, I understand that. thanks. also, what do u think my carb intake daily should be and how about my fats as well?
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11-29-2004, 07:37 PM #39
keep the carbs lower, and low fat. you need some but only the good kind, like in fish.
keep the protine up. have a read in the diet forum. lots of good info
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11-29-2004, 07:49 PM #40Originally Posted by dive_kid
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