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    Lightbulb Cutting Cycle - Prop/EQ + Tren/Winny

    Hey guys ,
    Wanna know what you guys think about this cycle ??
    Looking for MAXIMUM lean gains
    Wanna keep gains while being as dry as possible

    1-15 Prop 75mg ED
    1-12 EQ 500mg
    9-15 Tren A 75mg ED
    1-15 Letro .25-1mg ED
    16-18 Clomid Therapy + Nolva 20 mg ED
    1-18 Vit B6 200mg ED

    1. Should I replace the EQ or Tren for some Winny ? (rather not Winny cause joint pain .. wanna know what would make better cutter)
    2. Should I use clen /t3 for added fat loss .. and how so ?
    3. Anything else I should be taking with this gear ??

    Any advice is good advice and will be appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33
    Hey guys ,
    Wanna know what you guys think about this cycle ??
    Looking for MAXIMUM lean gains
    Wanna keep gains while being as dry as possible

    1-15 Prop 75mg ED
    1-12 EQ 500mg
    10-15 Tren A 75mg ED
    1-15 Letro .25-1mg ED
    16-18 Clomid Therapy + Nolva 20 mg ED
    1-18 Vit B6 200mg ED

    1. Should I replace the EQ or Tren for some Winny ? (rather not Winny cause joint pain .. wanna know what would make better cutter)
    2. Should I use clen /t3 for added fat loss .. and how so ?
    3. Anything else I should be taking with this gear ??

    Any advice is good advice and will be appreciated.

    here's some advice...........try not posting 4 of the same threads

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    sorry man ... my comp was buggin out

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33
    sorry man ... my comp was buggin out
    j/k bro happens to me too.

    i'm pretty sure you can run the eq for 13 weeks and the prop for 15.
    also if this is a first cycle i would drop the tren totally and run the eq at 400.
    im pretty sure you're supposed to run the prop longer then the tren too,about 1 week?

    both the eq and tren will get you more cut then winny. winny is a hardener.

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    ok cool ... anyone else

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    u could throw in 50mg of winni ed weeks 10-15
    just take glucosamine for dry joints but 50mg winni never really hurt my joints i would run tren weeks 10-15

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    and imo eq works best when run 14 weeks or longer

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    juice ... do u think i should run the prop 1 week past the tren ???

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    1-15 Prop 75mg ED
    1-12 EQ 500mg
    9-14 Tren A 75mg ED
    1-15 Letro .25-1mg ED
    16-19 Clomid Therapy + Nolva 20 mg ED
    1-18 Vit B6 200mg ED
    also run your bolva throughout the cycle at 10mg/day so your lipids stay in check i wouldnt add winny i think eq is good

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    Quote Originally Posted by bignatt
    1-15 Prop 75mg ED
    1-12 EQ 500mg
    9-14 Tren A 75mg ED
    1-15 Letro .25-1mg ED
    16-19 Clomid Therapy + Nolva 20 mg ED
    1-18 Vit B6 200mg ED
    also run your bolva throughout the cycle at 10mg/day so your lipids stay in check i wouldnt add winny i think eq is good
    why not end with for the hard dense thin skin look
    eq has never made me hard and dense it has given me quality muscle and tone

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    i think if you want to end with a hardener then anavar is better than winny but i think eq would suffice

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    Quote Originally Posted by bignatt
    i think if you want to end with a hardener then anavar is better than winny but i think eq would suffice
    all var ever did for me was increase my strength imo winni is king when come getting the hard and dense look

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    read profile on eq it tells u ppl stack eq and winni for hardness

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    If this is not your first or second cycle, and if you have enough product or $$$ to do it I'd try runnin this:

    1-18 prop 75mg ED
    1-15 EQ 400mg/wk
    5-15 Tren 75mg ED

    I woulnd't even add winny with these 3 components. But definitely run the prop out a few weeks after you drop the others. And take 10mg nolva ED through out. Use proper pct. Different results for different people, but when I combine Tren and EQ and Prop, I get a lot more cut up and vascular than I ever did on winny. Although I've read that Tren and Winny is a winning combo too. Good luck.

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    i just disagree i think var is better than winny and why would he add winny in to he already has tren to theres so many compounds hes stacking already i think what is there is enough

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    if im gonna be running letro up until PCT .. do u think its necessary to run nolva throughout as well ??? or should i just save the nolva for PCT ?

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    letro is enuf .5mg ed up till pct then switch off to nolva

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    Justin ... you said I should run the prop out longer than the eq and tren ... but then wouldnt that mess up my lining up of the PCT ???

    test p 3 days
    eq 3 weeks
    tren 3 days

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    thats y u should run the tren weeks 10-15

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    yeah ... thats what i was thinking ... alright juice .. thanx man

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33
    yeah ... thats what i was thinking ... alright juice .. thanx man
    goodluck bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by juiceinthehood
    thats y u should run the tren weeks 10-15

    Go big or go home. That's just me though. 5 weeks of tren ?? Nah. If you're gonna do it, do it all the way. You said you want "MAXIMUM lean gains". Tren is gonna do it for ya big time bro, but I've never heard of anyone running it for less than 6? I'd run it longer. Come off with the prop like I said to help you recover a bit before pct. Be taking nolva through out, and start your clomid 3 days after your last prop inject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justincredible
    Go big or go home. That's just me though. 5 weeks of tren?? Nah. If you're gonna do it, do it all the way. You said you want "MAXIMUM lean gains". Tren is gonna do it for ya big time bro, but I've never heard of anyone running it for less than 6? I'd run it longer. Come off with the prop like I said to help you recover a bit before pct. Be taking nolva through out, and start your clomid 3 days after your last prop inject.
    its 6 weeks not five bro
    10,11,12,13,14,15

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    6 weeks of tren is enuf to see good results
    remember tren is very toxic bro why over due it jmo

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    Quote Originally Posted by juiceinthehood
    its 6 weeks not five bro
    10,11,12,13,14,15
    Sorry Juice, my calculator is broken.

    Why would you not run it longer, especially if you've got him coming off of it the same time I did? (15) And I think it's a smart move to run the prop out after he drops EQ and Tren before clomid. I'm just curious why you'd only run 6 (not 5) weeks of tren and start it in week 10?

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    the reason i dont wanna run the tren longer than 6 weeks is cause it is very toxic ... if anything the most ill run it is 7 weeks but no longer than that ... so if anything ill do this

    1-15 Prop 75mg ED
    1-12 EQ 500mg
    9-15 Tren A 75mg ED
    1-15 Letro .5-1mg ED
    16-18 Clomid Therapy & Nolva 20mg ED
    1-18 Vit B6 200mg ED

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    i dont like tren it is very toxic and shut u down hard toxic to the the kidneys just dont like it

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    hey i just started basically the same stack ur running...just didnt have enough prop so running enth and using prop to front/back load with. im ending my tren a week early bc of its suppressive propertys and will make pct recovery only harder if ran till the end. im also using hcg for the last three weeks of my cycle b4 moving onto pct. id say...

    1-15 Prop 75mg ED
    1-12 EQ 500mg
    8-14 Tren A 75mg ED (start earlier if u want to run it longer but u said 7 max)
    10-15 winni or var
    1-15 Letro .5-1mg ED
    13-15 hcg 3000 3000 1500 1500 1000 every 5th day
    16-19 Clomid Therapy & Nolva 20mg ED
    1-18 Vit B6 200mg ED

    that tren winni prop combo will be insane hardness along with eq it will only get better. alot of shots tho, hope ur ready for those.

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    you need the nolva man to keep your lipid profile in check

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    Quote Originally Posted by bignatt
    i just disagree i think var is better than winny and why would he add winny in to he already has tren to theres so many compounds hes stacking already i think what is there is enough

    exactly tren hardens,just not your package...unless u got TEST

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    good thing i got the TEST in there

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    UNF ... i cant run the tren earlier ... cause i gotta line up my PCT correctly ... for tren its 3 days i believe

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    you could run your tren earlier start at week 6 or 7

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    wouldnt that mess up my PCT ... or would i have to run it from week 6 to the end ??

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    why would it mess up your pct? 6-14

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    i would have to run to week 15 ... in order to line up my PCT

    prop 3 days
    eq 3 wks
    fina 3 days
    win 24 hrs

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    so the tren would be run from 9-15 ... 7 weeks

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    ya so whats wrong with that?

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    there's nothing wrong with that ... thats what i plan on doing

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    what do u guys think of throwing in some clen /t3 ??

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