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    Whats the problem?

    As a juice newbie, I'd like some advice from knowledgeable vets. I've done 2 cycles in the past 8 monthes, the source was the same. The first consisted of 10 weeks of sust (250 weekly) and deca (250 weekly). I upped my calories from about 3300 to 4000, pretty good split on protein (40 %, carbs 40% and fat 20%). Workouts about 4-5 weekly for 60-90 minutes, pretty intense. I gained zero pounds and made tiny strength gains.

    Second cycle was about 2 monthes later- Upped to 500 enanth weekly for 11 weeks, tapered to 250 for the last 2 weeks. Coupled with 6 weeks of dbol (30 daily) at the start. Calories up to just over 4100, workout regime similar. Again, not one **** pound.
    I'm 5'7" and 190, pretty lean and decent build from 20 years juice-free training, Still, I was hoping to get my weight to 200. What the hell is going on?
    My provider says to eat more, but surely even a modest 800 calorie increase combined with the above cycles should result in some gains, shouldn"t they? Am I getting ripped off or is he right? Please advise!

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    diet bro! u gotta eat right.

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    sounds like dud gear to me

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    You Need To Keep Upping Your Cals Until You Start Gaining Again. I'm The Same Weight As You But A Little Shorter And I Had To Up My Cal Intake To Bout 5,000-5,500 Cals To Start Gaining Again. I Am In The Middle Of A Cycle And My Gains Stopped For Two Weeks And Changing My Diet Made Me Start Growing Again. You Should Try That And I Bet You'll Make Progress.

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    fake gear!

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    Fake gear man, find another source fast!!!

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    that doesnt sound right at all ,the next cycle you buy from your source put it in a sock and beat him with it

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    PM me the name of the source. If your diet was true to what you said and you gained zero lbs from 6 dbols a day then your gear was fake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joey11
    You Need To Keep Upping Your Cals Until You Start Gaining Again. I'm The Same Weight As You But A Little Shorter And I Had To Up My Cal Intake To Bout 5,000-5,500 Cals To Start Gaining Again. I Am In The Middle Of A Cycle And My Gains Stopped For Two Weeks And Changing My Diet Made Me Start Growing Again. You Should Try That And I Bet You'll Make Progress.
    joey can I ask what you ate that gave you 5,500 calories a day ?

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    Even if you where eating 1500k day bro you should of seen some changes in muscle and strenght! FAKE FAKE FAKE GEAR!!!!
    Have any pics of your gear?

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