first cycle

**skinnyff** · 12-06-2004, 10:31 AM

33y/o, lifting about 3 years looking to gain lean mass.

1-10 test cyp 400mg/wk
1-8 deca 300mg/wk
1-4 anabol 25mg/ed ( 3 x d)
1-10 nolvadex 10mg/ed ( will have enough for 20 mg/ed just in case)
13-15 clomid therapy

Well What ya think?

**daem** · 12-06-2004, 10:35 AM

I'd try to run the deca at least 10 weeks, and extend test 2 weeks past that.

Up the Dbol to at least 30mg.

Grab some B6 to help progesterone levels.

Otherwise, get to it and put on some mass.

**skinnyff** · 12-06-2004, 10:37 AM

is the b6 injected, or injested. 200mg/day right?

**MBaraso** · 12-06-2004, 10:38 AM

Your not going to gain lean mass with that cycle unless your diet is really strict.
That's more of a straight up bulking cycle.

**GetinBig** · 12-06-2004, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by skinnyff

is the b6 injected, or injested. 200mg/day right?

No the B6 is not injected and yes 200mg every day. Go to Walgreens, rite-aid, or GNC to get B6..

Get ur done bro. and put on some mass.

**daem** · 12-06-2004, 10:41 AM

Mb has it right there since you will retain water. Very difficult to eat cleanly on a cycle like that.

Also, 10mg of Nolva really isn't enough IMO.

I'd run it at least at 20mg, but look into other options such as liquidex or femara.

**skinnyff** · 12-06-2004, 10:47 AM

right, I am pretty lean now, (6-8% bf) and just figured I would lean out after. Sound ok?

**dr9999** · 12-06-2004, 10:56 AM

on my 1st cycle and on advice, i did not start NOVA until the 4th week. Not everyone here agrees on when to start nova, but my experience was week 4. i did my 1st cycle at age 38.