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    Lightbulb Prop/Fina/Winni Cycle

    Hey guys ... still trimming it up but wanna know what u guys think... any suggestions ?

    1-9 Prop 75mg ED
    2-9 Winni 50mg ED
    1-8 Fina 75mg ED

    1-9 Letro .50mg-1.50mg ED
    10-13 Nolva 20mg ED
    10-12 Clomid Therapy
    1-13 Milk Thistle 1000mg ED
    1-13 Vit B6 200mg ED
    1-13 Flax Seed Oil 1000mg ED

    T3 Schedule (Mcg)
    3 - 20,20,20,40,40,40,60
    4 - 60,60,80,80,100,100,100
    5 - 100,100,100,80,80,60,60
    6 - 40,40,40,20,20,20,20

    Clen Schedule
    1 - 20,40,60,80,100,120,140 mcg
    2 - 140,120,100,80,60,40,20 mcg
    5 - 20,40,60,80,100,120,140 mcg
    6 - 140,120,100,80,60,40,20 mcg
    9 - 20,40,60,80,100,120,140 mcg
    10 - 140,120,100,80,60,40,20 mcg
    13 -20,40,60,80,100,120,140 mcg
    14 -140,120,100,80,60,40,20 mcg

    Do u think i should add/remove anythiing ???
    Any advice is good advice.

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    cmon guys ... bump

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    run the prop at 12 weeks, and run the winny at 6 weeks starting on week 7. as for the fina i cannot tell you how to run because i have to experience with it nor have i really researched the stuff. also you could cut the nolva to 10 mg/day during the period of running it.

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    anyone else wanna put their 2 cents in ?

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    i would definately run the prop longer
    prop 1-12
    tren 1-8
    winny 7-12
    im about to start something similar but in mine i have test e, and im starting and ending with prop
    your doses look good

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    if i were to run the prop longer, shouldnt i run the tren more towards the end of the cycle maybe something like this

    prop 1-12
    tren 4-11
    win 5-12

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    Ive ran a similar cutter with great success.

    1-12 Prop 100mg ED
    1-12 Tren A. 100mg ED
    4-12 Winny 50mg ED

    If you do plan on running Clenbuterol , I suggest you invest in some Taurine and Potassium. I run typically 3-5g Taurine a day to cut on the crampings primarily as well as 3-4 grams of Potassium everyday.

    Good luck

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    quietstorm, what is your cycle experience like? this isnt your first cycle is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maraxus
    Ive ran a similar cutter with great success.

    1-12 Prop 100mg ED
    1-12 Tren A. 100mg ED
    4-12 Winny 50mg ED

    If you do plan on running Clenbuterol , I suggest you invest in some Taurine and Potassium. I run typically 3-5g Taurine a day to cut on the crampings primarily as well as 3-4 grams of Potassium everyday.

    Good luck
    tren 100mg ED (!!!700mg/wk!!!)? ... and for 12 wks? and winny for 9? potassium 3-4 !!!G-R-A-M-S!!!?
    hope u kidding with all these BAD (imo) info's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabry
    tren 100mg ED (!!!700mg/wk!!!)? ... and for 12 wks? and winny for 9? potassium 3-4 !!!G-R-A-M-S!!!?
    hope u kidding with all these BAD (imo) info's...
    Are you basing your statement on experience because I am. Yes I ran 100mg of Tren A. ED, yes I ran 3-4 grams of Potassium a day to combat the crampings, and no I ran Winny for 8. If youre going to state that these are bad suggestions then I hope youre basing it on your experience.

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    quiet storm. u'r cutting cycle looks great. well planned out. hope u get the best results from it. what is your diet and training regiment for that? and 1000mg of milk thistle?? is that the recommended dosages?? i take about 210mg of milk thistle. and also about the vitamin b6 what is the dosing for that?? and what does that assist u in....

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    yeah after revamping your cycle though the board here on other threads, you have a winner. just extend a bit longer like you said in post #6

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabry
    tren 100mg ED (!!!700mg/wk!!!)? ... and for 12 wks? and winny for 9? potassium 3-4 !!!G-R-A-M-S!!!?
    hope u kidding with all these BAD (imo) info's...
    Whats your suggestion??? What would be effective for you? How come you didn't just back up your statement??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maraxus
    Are you basing your statement on experience because I am. Yes I ran 100mg of Tren A. ED, yes I ran 3-4 grams of Potassium a day to combat the crampings, and no I ran Winny for 8. If youre going to state that these are bad suggestions then I hope youre basing it on your experience.
    no, never tried tren so far, but im readin a lot coz i want to be sure about what im gonna do.
    u can inject yoursef 3gr of testo and 2 of tren and have "a personal experience" but this doesnt mean u are doing well.
    from what read so far...
    1. test higher than tren
    2. tren stops 2 wks before test
    3. winny for 5-6 wks max due to liver toxicity.
    according to these i can state with no worries that u are givin a bad advice... but i repeat, just my opinion...

    also, potassium is 400mg ed while on clen and not 4 grams.... then u can do what u want but dont give "bad" advices... imo. (searcg and read clen handbook somewhere in this board).

    not always what we experienced in the past is A LAW or CORRECT!!!

    if he is a first timer user with TREN, i think 3-400mg per wk will be planty and 8-10 wks will be good time...
    winny, last 6 wks with liver protectans...

    sorry, just my opinion... but i made it reading here and there from other "experienced people"...
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    are the doses that quietstorm taking for milk thistle and vitamin B6 recommended doses??

    milk thistle was 1000mg ed
    vitamin b6 was 200mg ed. what is this for?

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    on tren 75mg ed is the min...imo 8wks is pushing the envelope, but not unheard of. I know for a fact guys in contest doing halo winny and tren for 8wks. The clen handbook is old as hell and everyone needs to make a decission to what works for them.

    I am glad you are taking an opportunity to read and learn , but part of learning is listening to the guys that have been around for a while. Experimentring for yourself is a must.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabry
    no, never tried tren so far, but im readin a lot coz i want to be sure about what im gonna do.
    u can inject yoursef 3gr of testo and 2 of tren and have "a personal experience" but this doesnt mean u are doing well.
    from what read so far...
    1. test higher than tren
    2. tren stops 2 wks before test
    2. winny for 5-6 wks max due to liver toxicity.
    also, potassium i 400mg ed and not 4 grams.... then u can do what u want but dont give "bad" advices... imo.

    not always what we experienced in the past is A LAW or CORRECT!!!

    if he is a first timer user with TREN, i think 3-400mg per wk will be planty and 8-10 wks will be good time...
    winny, last 6 wks with liver protectans...

    sorry, just my opinion... but i made it reading here and there from other "experienced people"...
    I respect your opinion on the cycle. But I am stating my facts. Plain and simple. How my body reacted to the chemicals and so forth. Its hard to distinguish how your body would react to something based solely on research. Personal experience is best.

    Personally when I started that cutting cycle, I was running 100mg prop ed, and 75mg tren A ed, but I decided to bump it and my body reacted perfectly fine to it.

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    i think milk t (and ala) 1000mg each ed while on winny will be good choice.. and yes, is standard.
    b6 too is correct... all cycle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozmax98
    are the doses that quietstorm taking for milk thistle and vitamin B6 recommended doses??

    milk thistle was 1000mg ed
    vitamin b6 was 200mg ed. what is this for?
    B6 is to help with prolactin buildup from the tren .. If you get prolactin gyno symptoms up your dose to 600ed until the symptoms subside

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maraxus
    I respect your opinion on the cycle. But I am stating my facts. Plain and simple. How my body reacted to the chemicals and so forth. Its hard to distinguish how your body would react to something. Personal experience is best.
    i agree tha each person react in differetn way, but id start "easy"... and then maybe increase dosages cycle after cycle....
    np mate, we are here to discuss right?

    peace!

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    thanks fabry.. i didn't think 1000mg was neccessary. right now i was taking 210 mg of it ed and no b6. what is the purpose of b6? i get different responses from everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabry
    i agree tha each person react in differetn way, but id start "easy"... and then maybe increase dosages cycle after cycle....
    np mate, we are here to discuss right?

    peace!
    Defiantely bro

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    as said already by someone else before... b6 keeps down prolactin levels....

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    anyone have any comments regarding the T3 ?

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