Planning Future Cycle Question?

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i am plannning on running a 15 week cycle here is what it looks like! all suggestions comments are welcome and appriciated! thanks bros.

1-15 test e 500mg
1-4 dbol 50mg ed or test prop 1-4?
eq 1-10 most likely but maybe qv deca 450mg per week
always nolva ed 10 mg
pct clomid 17-20 nolva 20mg ed

Also i was thinking of leaving out deca and eq entirely not sure and just trying a lower dose cycle than i have done in the past and see how my gains are!

my stats are as of today in week 8 of bulking cycle
1-12 test 250 eod
1-8 deca 450 mg
1-4 dbol 50mg
nolva ed 10mg

i am 202 12% bf 5'10
Thanks for any help suggestions!!!!!!

eq needs to be run longer

What's your cycle history?

JohnnyB

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Originally Posted by juiceinthehood

eq needs to be run longer

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I agree 14 weeks would work in this one, but we your history

JohnnyB

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Originally Posted by JohnnyB

I agree 14 weeks would work in this one, but we your history

JohnnyB

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i started training after high school sports were done. 18-23 natural built a real solid base was actually around 210 but alot of water weight from supps.
only been running ass for almost 1 1/2 years. on my forth now which you see. the first three looked like this.

1. ran test (sp) cytoho 500mg. 1-10
d-bol 20-30 mg ed 1-4

2. ran test 400 ouch 1-10
deca 300mg a week 1-8

3. test prop 1-16 ed
fina 1-8ed
dbol1-4 50 mg ed

#2 and 3 used proper pct and ran nolva throughout.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyB

I agree 14 weeks would work in this one, but we your history

JohnnyB

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ok that i can do

oh i forgot before. before the cycle now i cut up to 189 before i started this current cycle if wondering on weight. thanks!

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Originally Posted by carmine09

ok that i can do

oh i forgot before. before the cycle now i cut up to 189 before i started this current cycle if wondering on weight. thanks!

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:bcool:

I like prop for a jump start, I'm not a d-bol fan

JohnnyB

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Originally Posted by JohnnyB

:bcool:

I like prop for a jump start, I'm not a d-bol fan

JohnnyB

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I agree with JB...

I would run the prop for the first 4 to 6 wks then drop until the last 2 wks... taper the deca up and down...leave the eq until the next cycle...with using the prop no need for the dbol...jmho

peace

db

why taper the deca?

So you dont crash bro...

peace

db

How about cutting out the deca at about week 10? Since you're running test for another 12 weeks there's no need to taper the deca. I would reccomend front end loading your cycle with prop at 100mg ed. Start the prop the last week of your test enth and run the prop for another 2 weeks after you stop shooting the enth. This gives your body 4 weeks of recovery from the deca, which should be sufficient. I wouldn't use deca for only 8 weeks. You don't even begin see results from it until around week 5, at least for me. I run it 10 weeks, no more and no less. When you do decide to run eq, it needs to be ran a minumum of 12 weeks to take full advantage of it. I run it for 14 and run the test about 16 weeks, but I've also ran it for 14 and test 13 weeks and had no issue with recovery.

_ODC

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Originally Posted by ODC0717

How about cutting out the deca at about week 10? Since you're running test for another 12 weeks there's no need to taper the deca. I would reccomend front end loading your cycle with prop at 100mg ed. Start the prop the last week of your test enth and run the prop for another 2 weeks after you stop shooting the enth. This gives your body 4 weeks of recovery from the deca, which should be sufficient. I wouldn't use deca for only 8 weeks. You don't even begin see results from it until around week 5, at least for me. I run it 10 weeks, no more and no less. When you do decide to run eq, it needs to be ran a minumum of 12 weeks to take full advantage of it. I run it for 14 and run the test about 16 weeks, but I've also ran it for 14 and test 13 weeks and had no issue with recovery.

_ODC

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thanks, oh about the deca it is being run until week 10 not week 8 thats my mistake.

I think this is what i am looking at!

1-15 test e 500mg a week

1-12 eq

1-4 prop 100mged

nolva ed 10mg

pct clomid 17-19
nolva 20mged

you could run the eq to 14 if you wanted

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Originally Posted by bignatt

you could run the eq to 14 if you wanted

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Def run the EQ until 14...you will be much happier with the results.

T

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Originally Posted by t-money

Def run the EQ until 14...you will be much happier with the results.

T

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From what i understand you should run test for about two weeks longer then eq as it stands i have enough test for 15 weeks so maybe 13 for eq? i could stand corrected though.

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Originally Posted by bignatt

you could run the eq to 14 if you wanted

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that's a good idea

JohnnyB