Can someone clarify for me?

[lookingforquality]

See a few posts down for updated cycle ideaTHANKS!

[Property of Steroid.com]

Its not true.

[imann]

I don't know where you read that load of sh*t, ALWAYS run more test than EQ, run higher test levels b/c both AS's will shut down your natutral test production, meaning that you need more "artificial" test to keep your levels high, so that you can make gains.
The average adult male only produces between 7 and 10 mg of test per day.

[BajanBastard]

I like the cycle. You could bump the Turanabol up to 6 wks if you wish.

[rborwn77]

I have been researching a cycle and wanted to do:

1-15: test cyp 400mgs/week
1-13: EQ 300mgs/week
1-4: Turanabol 40mgs

however, I keep readingon this board that the EQ should be equal to a greater than the amount of test one runs on the cycle--why is this and is it true?

looks good but try to run the EQ 1 more week

1-15: test cyp 400mgs/week
1-14: EQ 300mgs/week
1-4: Turanabol 40mgs

the reason you stop eq a week before test is so your pct times will match up

[Property of Steroid.com]

Eq is essentially injetable dianabol . The original literature with dianabol states that 10mgs/day will provide full androgen replacement therapy for a man. The use of Eq at a higher level than test *(i.e. a level which will be providing full androgen therapy).... in light of that fact (and that it is a testosterone derivative) makes running test higher than it unnecessary.

[bignatt]

looks good but try to run the EQ 1 more week

1-15: test cyp 400mgs/week
1-14: EQ 300mgs/week
1-4: Turanabol 40mgs

the reason you stop eq a week before test is so your pct times will match up

I like this setup

[BajanBastard]

Eq is essentially injetable dianabol. The original literature with dianabol states that 10mgs/day will provide full androgen replacement therapy for a man. The use of Eq at a higher level than test *(i.e. a level which will be providing full androgen therapy).... in light of that fact (and that it is a testosterone derivative) makes running test higher than it unnecessary.

I know that Dianabol is methylated Boldenone but to say "Eq is essentially injetable dianabol" is streching it a bit don't you think? I thought adding a methyl/ethyl group to a steroid dramatically changes the properties of the said hormone.

[Property of Steroid.com]

Ok...forget thet....lets agree that It's a contributing factor.

I mean...both Eq and Dbol are strong enough androgens and testosterone based. Why would you need to run test at a higher dose than Eq, based on that information?

And why would you need to run test at more than 200mgs to "replace" your natural levels? AAS can reduce your natural levels of test, but won't "remove" or "lower" injected levels....

A possible issue can involve a cycle with a progestin or whatever, but I'm sure Eq doesn't need to be run at less than the test in a cycle.

[BajanBastard]

Ok...forget thet....lets agree that It's a contributing factor.

I mean...both Eq and Dbol are strong enough androgens and testosterone based. Why would you need to run test at a higher dose than Eq, based on that information?

And why would you need to run test at more than 200mgs to "replace" your natural levels? AAS can reduce your natural levels of test, but won't "remove" or "lower" injected levels....

A possible issue can involve a cycle with a progestin or whatever, but I'm sure Eq doesn't need to be run at less than the test in a cycle.

Ok I hear you, to be honest i never understood the concept myself. This is something i've wanted to ask you.

2 cycles, 600mg testosterone enanthate , 400mg trenbolone enanthate or 800mg trenbolone enanthate and 200mg testosterone enanthate. Both cycles are 1000mg total AS intake per week for say 10 wks. The 1st cycle is the more conventional cycle, the 2nd one uses the trenbolone as the base of the cycle and 200mg of testosterone as a replacement for lossed natural testosterone production. Now if one of the progesterone receptor antagonists and aromatise inhibitors are used with both cycles. Would the 2nd cycle be the better one in terms of overall benefits? I know trenbolone is more androgenic then testosterone so would this be a mojor problem? Trenbolone is also a progestin, but as you mentioned it could be a "possible issue" why?

[BajanBastard]

Bump

[lookingforquality]

ok I have changed the cycle somewhat:

1-15: Test cyp 400mgs
1-14: EQ 400mgs
7-14: Winny 50mg e/d
PCT

[bignatt]

looks good to me dont forget nolva10mg/day

[tycin]

looks good to me dont forget nolva10mg/day

i would just keep nolva on hand in case of signs of gyno. no need to run it if u dont need.

[BajanBastard]

i would just keep nolva on hand in case of signs of gyno. no need to run it if u dont need.

It's about time guys stopped with this keep nolva on hand talk. Use the nolva for your cholesterol Bro.

[bignatt]

It's about time guys stopped with this keep nolva on hand talk. Use the nolva for your cholesterol Bro.

thank you i agreee

[lookingforquality]

thank you i agreee

yeah running it to counter the cholesterol effects of Letrozole
think Nolva should be at 10 or 20 per day?

[BajanBastard]

yeah running it to counter the cholesterol effects of Letrozole
think Nolva should be at 10 or 20 per day?

The nolva will lower the letrozole plasma concentrations in your blood by 46% so you'll need to adjust your letrozole dosage to compensate. Stick with 10mg ED for the nolva, 1.5 mg ED or EOD can be used as the letrozole dose IMO.Good luck.

[d.b]

Dont forget your liver supps...

peace

db

[Dimes]

Looks good, good luck.